reply to post by Xeven
I want to paint a little picture and see if it opens up some possibilities:
Let us assume that all of us were created and existed as spiritual beings before we came to this earth. We lived with "God" (whomever that is for
you) in his spiritual dimension/realm and he told us "OK, right now you all are my creations and I love you so I want you to keep on progressing so
that one day you can have the same joy and power of creation that I do. There is a plan of happiness that I followed and I would like you to follow it
as well. In order to do that I need you to go through a mortal/physical experience so that I can see what you are truly made of because great power
requires great responsibility (I can't have you out blowing up planets, etc).
It will be a test to see if you will be selfish or kind and if you can control yourself with the limited power of creation that I give you (sexual
power) on a fallen world in the face of temptation, poverty or wealth. I care a lot about how you get into the world and how you leave it so a big
part of the test will be how you use that creative power to bring individuals into the world (thus providing them either a loving and nurturing home
or just the opposite) and if you are so selfish that you prematurely end anothers experience (murder).
You will not be allowed to remember your existence from before since this will not be an open book test so all memory will be veiled. Since I know you
perfectly, I will place you when and where you will best be able to demonstrate your true self to me. Everyone will have weakness and everyone will
succumb somewhat to that weakness. Some more than others. Because of this there will be suffering and pain as some of you choose to be selfish and
cruel. I will intervene only minimally as showing myself openly would ruin the test, forcing you to act based on knowledge of me, and not on what is
in your heart.
Those who demonstrate sufficient humility, love, patience and self control will be allowed great privilege and power after the experience has ended,
all based on degrees. Those who show the least love, etc. will be given the least privilege and power and this will be quite dissapointing to them and
will seem as form of punishment. However it is not punishment, it is a protection for themselves and everyone else. I will not force you to
participate but if you do not, you will stopped in your progression (damned) as you will not be able to obtain further power and privilege.
All who participate will be subject to evil influences, pain, suffering and even death. However there will also be joy, happiness and pleasure. And
those that endure it well will find themselves rewarded with even greater joy and happiness when it is all finished. I invite you to take part in this
great experience. It won't be easy but it will be worth it."
With that, those of us who chose to have the experience were then "plugged in" to physical bodies Matrix like. We are now being observed, possibly
by what we would call Aliens, to find out exactly who we are.
To me this would explain why "God" does not openly reveal himself and why he doesn't just come down and clean up all our problems for us. It
explains the suffering and horrible stuff in the world as necessary to see if we will be charitable or not. For how can we show compassion if there is
no one suffering enough to show compassion on? How can we be merciful or develop qualities of love and forgiveness if no one ever hurts us? How can
we show we can control our anger and emotion if nothing ever goes wrong? How can we hope to ever have great power if it is proved we would just abuse
We are in a test. Let's pass it with flying colors!
-We are not physical beings having a spiritual experience. We are spiritual beings having a physical experience. Pierre Teilhard de Chardin