I got to star and flag it for the video at least.

Very entertaining, although it will get bashed because it was anti-christian, and didn't mention other religion, and other members will come on here, and complain well why just christianity huh, huh!

A new priest moved in next door, so of course he comes to say hi, and starts preaching to me, if I've found the good path (the christian path, apparently theres only one road that's good) I politely told him I was atheist.

Point blank the guy calls me ignorant and moronic, I thought, well nice to meet you to, so we got into a three hour debate, everything logical thing I said came back with moronic answers, I even said to him, I don't believe in evolution, but it's more easy to think that we evolved, then a genie starting popping up animals left and right, he replied don't chose whats easy to think but whats best to think, (I died a little inside).

Then he went on exclaiming how the earth is in fact 6,000 years old, I mentioned carbon dating, (which to my extreme surprise) he asked me if I had been alive in these millions of years ago, I said no, he then says well then you can't prove that the earth was here millions of years ago, (died some more inside) then he mentioned that carbon dating is just a theory and can't be taken seriously, to my surprise again used carbon dating to his benefit of the bloody cloth with a mans face on it!! When I tried to say there was no proof of existence of a jesus, he said but look the muslims acknowledge he exists, I said I don't think christianity is extremely false I think all religion is extremely false, he evaded.

All in all he politely asked me for another debate, I agreed he asked me to once a few videos from a John Bowel, I agreed he said when I was done come talk to him, I told him I will and I will also bring a few documents from sources about why it's false what you've said here today.

I thought the man was going to strangle me, he calmed down and said politely, "Michael, you need to understand that it is all based on faith". He assumed he won the debate, but the video clearly states I won, never spoke to him again, can't seem to get ahold of him either.....

Faith works! I've used faith to invent some really cool scientific theories, used faith to win all engineering and science competitions I've joined so far, locally and internationally even if handicapped by time, money and resources...

Used faith to understand the Bible, faith to keep thinking straight and calm and peace in very difficult and dangerous situations. Faith to remain healthy and physically strong without the use of medicines and vitamins and sometimes, without eating or drinking... Faith to understand all things I'm trying to learn. Faith to do things no man has done before!

I really don't mind if faith is being viewed as retarded. All I can say in that case, this world needs more retarded people!!

My favorite thing to see is Bible thumpers claiming to "deny ignorance"...

Ahh irony at its very finest.

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My thoughts on the video:

1. The Kirk Cameron / 3 Little Pigs analogy is weeeaaaak. Telling someone that the 3 little pigs story is true and then deriding them for believing it is NOT the same thing as mocking humankind’s long and complex metaphysical journey throughout history of producing hypotheses and ideas about the origins of the natural world.

2. The assumption that the only 3 sources that Christians use to explore and test their theology are Kent Hogan, Lee Strobel, and Josh McDowall is just plain incorrect. This seems to be an experiential rant.

The author of this video comes across as a 1st year philosophy student who thinks he’s “got it all worked out”. He discounts and omits SO MUCH in his considerations that the content of his video is essentially of no value whatsoever. It’s just a brain-fart, and not a particularly clever one at that.

I’m not a religious person, but this snide and petulant offering is just beneath consideration.

The thing is that faith emerges from the ego's realization that one's belief plays a huge part in their success.

Faith itself isn't retarded. It can often mean the difference between success and failure. The issue is when we allow our beliefs to become rigid, and then place faith in that.

It's like seeing... you can see some good stuff or you can see some stupid stuff, it doesn't make eyes retarded.

Blind faith is retarded. That consists of accepting things because someone told you so. Blind faith is what most people push and it's foolish.

I have faith that the understandings I have and such are true and right etc. I don't see anything wrong or retarded with that. There is a difference.

Originally posted by Roark
My thoughts on the video:

1. The Kirk Cameron / 3 Little Pigs analogy is weeeaaaak. Telling someone that the 3 little pigs story is true and then deriding them for believing it is NOT the same thing as mocking humankind’s long and complex metaphysical journey throughout history of producing hypotheses and ideas about the origins of the natural world.

You do realize that if you came across a group of people who had never experienced the status quo, who had no perception of religion or it's stories. That both would be taken just as jokingly.

3 little pigs is just as ridiculous as Noah building an arc, then running around gathering millions of species to pack on a boat. While john the carpenter is bumping out cages and tanks at a rate of 100,000 a second.

Give me a break, bible is completely ridiculous. Anyone over 5 that hasn't been brainwashed by parents can see this. The rest of the believers are just imbred idiots.

Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows

I mostly agree but allow me to say this if you please. Religion is not synomous with "belief in a god".

I neither disagree or agree with you on that. I partially believe in an entity of vast creative and nurturing powers, but I wouldn't call him/her God for the meantime.

You know, anyone with the appropriate technology or much affinity to the Universe can achieve supernatural powers of Biblical proportions that is of the worldly definition of God. But I can't be certain that any or all omnipotent beings will demand worship even as a way to teach or guide us... Do you all force your pets or children to worship you?