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U.S. holds journalist without charges in Iraq

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posted on May, 24 2009 @ 03:25 AM
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U.S. holds journalist without charges in Iraq


www.latimes.com

No formal accusations have been made against Jassam, and an Iraqi court ordered in November that he be released for lack of evidence. But the U.S. military continues to hold him, saying it has intelligence that he is "a high security threat," said Maj. Neal Fisher, spokesman for detainee affairs.
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[edit on 5/24/2009 by semperfortis]




posted on May, 24 2009 @ 03:25 AM
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A sign of the times to come? I keep seeing more and more stories about people being held by the US without evidence, trial or even a hearing.

Just go in, break the door down and take someone at gun point.

I truly hope we are ready for what is to come.
To help let this sink in I quote:Survivalblog.com

While Government intervention into banks and businesses is already occurring, it is likely that they will also nationalize/regulate individual retirement accounts, taxable investments, and individual rights and choices of work, travel, and association. This is not what he tells us he plans to do, this is what socialists always do, this is the change you can not afford.


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[edit on 5/24/2009 by Tentickles]



posted on May, 24 2009 @ 01:38 PM
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I posted this early in the morning and no one commented.

I still think it is important, considering his new plan for indefinite jail time without trial.



posted on May, 26 2009 @ 06:02 PM
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This is definitely news. Good find. This kind of corrupt justice is disgusting. Now that he is held without evidence can he ever be released? Is he just another "enemy combatant" who can be held without reason forever. It is fundamental to be given certain rights, like innocent until proven guilty, actually having evidence against someone, the right to an attorney, the right to know what you are being charged with, etc.

In my opinion, once you start eliminating these rights, there is no longer the rule of law at all. Its dictator justice, you are guilty because I say so.

Star and flag.



posted on May, 26 2009 @ 07:37 PM
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What I am about to say might not be true for this case, and for any other case we would never know. One thing we need to consider is that Iraq is not like the US or any first world country yet. They have a system of courts which have to say people should be released if there is not enough evidence. What Iraq does not have is great way of collecting evidence.

In most places there is not going to be somebody there to dust for finger prints. If there is a bloody glove laying around chances are your not going to find out who it belonged to. In Iraq with the court system they have set up somebody can shoot at you and a week after you take them in you will be giving them a ride back to their house. Think about how many people get out of crimes in the US due to lack of evidence. I would say that happens three times a much in Iraq.

I am not saying that I know this person is guilty, I wasn't there and that is not my call. I just want people to have a better idea of what is going on. I am not in favor or putting innocent people in jail. Mistakes happen, they even happen in the US. Over there things are not as straight forward.



posted on May, 26 2009 @ 07:47 PM
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I get what you are saying friend but the truth is that a foreign country (the US) is holding an Iraqi citizen for no other reason than they suspect something.

If a foreign nation came into the US, took one of our citizens for the same reason there would be riots and inspections.



posted on May, 27 2009 @ 12:50 AM
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I am sure people would be out in the streets protesting and raising havoc but that wouldn't be enough pressure for the country to just let them go.

I think there is this huge gray line. We don't know why they are choosing to keep this person. There are several people who are let go, there is not reason to keep a person who has not done anything. It's a waste of time and money. There is the chance that this person knows something that they down want them to tell and that would be morally wrong for them to hold somebody for this reason. There are just to many unknowns to make an accurate judgment upon what should happen. For me at least.

I could spend all day thinking of different possibility's of what is happening but we could never know which one was correct.



posted on May, 27 2009 @ 01:00 AM
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Aren't we suppose to just water-board the guy and find out what he knows?

Just saying.

And yes that was a second line.

[edit on 27-5-2009 by lellomackin]



posted on May, 27 2009 @ 01:50 AM
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Is this the same guy who was detained as a terrorist because he seeked cover from the same place many insurgents did when they were under fire? That was all the reason they need apparently. When the machine guns start singing you should always knock on doors and first ask if they're pro-US before entering



posted on May, 27 2009 @ 02:14 AM
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Just kinda scary to see this happening. Of course, we know that it is not a first.

Hope something happens soon.... Once freedom of speech and thought are outlawed, life might suck.

I just want to add also, once stuff like this is accepted for people that are 'different' than us.... We become desensitized to the idea, and the groups able to be held will only grow to include more and more people, until...

Just sayin.

[edit on 27-5-2009 by LostNemesis]



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