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Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by Astarfaraway
Well you have to remember that the population and size of the state of California are not the same.
Also the immigration and illegals problem are not the same either.
[edit on 23-5-2009 by marg6043]
Originally posted by abecedarian
Though I believe it is unfortunate for otherwise deserving people to be denied benefits us citizens of the state all are paying for, if California would enforce existing laws, and would stop using taxpayer money to aid the health care of every illegal imigrant and 'anchor baby'... um, sorry "undocumented worker and their children"... we would nearly eliminate our state's debt.
One stroke of a pen and the debt is mostly gone. Multi-billion dollars of debt could be recouped immediately if benefits were not given to the state's illegal... oops, there I go again... "undocumented" workers and their families.
Know what? I'll be nice and let the "undocumented" children born here receive 200 a month from the state for formula / food (I've had kids and I know it doesn't cost any more than that- heck I don't eat 200 a month in food) until they reach the age where they can attend school, then mama and papi can drop 5 dollars a day for each kid to feed them at school. I'd gladly give one hours' wage a day to feed my kid(s) so why can't they?
When I, being currently unemployed, have to pay for health care for myself, my family and my children... when considering I was born in the state of California... so should any and every other person living here.
Why should I be penalized because I am, more often than not, a contributor to society? I pay taxes on what I earn, when I am working, and then again when I spend the money I've earned, yet I cannot get free "anything".
Originally posted by Psynarchist
reply to post by yellowcard
I can't believe how many reactions go like this: "Great, these lazy bastards on welfare now finally... etc..."
This country has been snatched up, flipped upside down, and shaken for our final pennies by a couple globalist capitalist monster corporations and parasitical financial institutions.
Many people are born in welfare, in broken homes, violent streets full of drugs....
...and instead of criticizing the white collar crooks who write the laws that allow them to screw us with our pants on, some here blame the poor folks. Very shortsighted in my opinion.
Originally posted by Slazer
I mean damn, what in the hell did people do BEFORE welfare was ever created?? I'm sure they found a way somehow.
This is getting out of hand. A new Democrat sponsored bill is being reintroduced by Nick Rahall, that would only allow people without the new permits, to take only samples of precious metals/minerals. Even thou gold pans and other non-motorized sluices would be the only available ways to get "samples" of minerals, and other precious resources, if you plan on selling these samples you still would need a notice, or plan, which means paying new fees to have the priviledge. And even then, you have to give 8% of the gross royalty to the federal government, even if such a person does not make a reasonable profit at current commodities prices.
This will not only affect those of us that do prospecting, and even some mining. It will also affect small to medium mining operations/companies, and will further affect jobs in this area.
Here is a link with more information about this new bill.
2. Under the Revised and Published Rule 1A-31.0092 (3) c, d, e it declares that permit areas shall have a "Buffer Zone" of 500 yards width from: navigation channels, exempted areas as defined in this chapter and excluded areas as defined in this chapter. These areas are defined in 1A-31.0042 and 1A-31.0045. This means no one will get a permit within 500 yards of a public recreation area (i.e. public beach) which translates to about one fourth of a mile from any Florida shoreline. The entire coastline of Florida is off limits for 1500 feet. This is not fair because history shows us that the majority of shipwrecks were blown toward or onto shore by hurricanes. The vast majority of shipwrecks on Florida's submerged lands are probably included within this area. It also means no one (without a grandfathered in Admiralty Claim) will get a permit within 500 yards of any inland waters, inlets, National Park systems, National Marine Sanctuaries such as the Florida Keys National Marine Sanctuary), State Parks, Local public recreation areas, resource conservation areas and resource management areas, areas conveyed to public or private entities............. etc.
Treasure hunting becoming banned in all states???
Financial Post March 10/2005
Back off, farmers
By Elizabeth Brubaker
Traffic chaos again disrupted Toronto yesterday as convoys of tractors – in the second such demonstration in as many weeks – converged on Queen's Park to demand more privileges for farmers. Last week, 8,000 farmers organized by the Ontario Federation of Agriculture lined up at the legislative trough for cash. Yesterday's protesters, led by the Lanark Landowners' Association, demanded a different kind of subsidy: freedom from accountability.
Armed with the slogan, "This is our land. Back off government," yesterday's protesters complained about a number of "intolerable" laws restricting farmers. Heading their list was Ontario's Nutrient Management Act, which, among other things, is intended to prevent farm manure from polluting the streams and lands of neighbours. They were also "fed up" with the Environmental Protection Act, fisheries regulations "that protect minnows more than people and harm your farm," and other regulations that have "broken the back of our family farms."