Governor plans to completely eliminate welfare for families

JHC, don't send them here.

Hmm all those Obama voters,

If this happens it is huge.

[edit on 123131p://bSaturday2009 by Stormdancer777]

I guess the article must be talking about state welfare because I'm sure the people will still get federal welfare.

Anyway, this is good news and long overdue. The people who have become lazy and who have been crushed of initiative and pride due to being dependent on welfare and the government in general will finally be cut loose in order to make something of themselves instead of the way of life called welfare.

California does not have to cut basic services like police, fire etc. They must cut all the BS social programs and other misc. programs which does nothing for the people.

Most of the larger cities in California and around the country who have been run by Dem's and liberals for decades are doing the worst and always seem to be in trouble. NY, LA and Detroit for example. These cities should be the jewel of America since they have been run by democratic and liberal policies for decades. Why is this not the case? The answer is obvious.

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Hunny we have been "getting ready" in Northern California for about three years now. While the rest of the state was enjoying the free ride we were repeatedly cut back on everything under the sun over and over. Now that it has FINALLY gone state wide people are freaking out. Well to bad I say you should have cut back a long time ago and you would already be in a position to ride it out!

As far as the crime issue we started to get a hail storm of it a couple months back when they did a temp cut on the welfare checks for a month. (I don't get it so not sure, but did see in local news it was for the month.) It was during the time they had also held onto the state tax returns.
Now during that time even here in my sleepy little town in the middle of the wine country we had a rush of burglaries. They where mostly auto and home break ins when people weren't home. Although three idiots did try and break in my home while my children and I where obviously inside. They got a rude awakening via me and a large gun and left when my hub came up the drive way and slammed on the brakes so hard his jeep went sideways. The second time I got them at the window with the gun and let them know that if I EVER laid eyes on them again I wouldn't think twice about killing them. Haven't seen them around here since!
Now for the rest of the state there is a heck of a lot of gangs and not so desirable people hanging around the larger cities. I do believe they are going to have some MAJOR problems with these types as most of them make their so called livings at the expense of other's. The other problems we have to look forward to are those who choose to abuse the welfare system instead of working and sell drugs on the side...don't even get me started on how bad they are gonna get! We had three houses of them here for 6 months before the cops harassed them so much they left. It WASN'T pretty. They beat up kids around here and tried to get a large number of high school kids to sell drugs for them not to mention steal what ever they could get their hands on.

They have already shut down a huge number of camp grounds and put limits on how long you can stay at the one's that are open.It has already spread to regular day use areas and they have gone as far as to block them off with those white cement barriers you see on freeways when they are doing construction. I think perhaps they had this planned out already long ago because the park ranger we talked to said the camp grounds we where scouting for this summer had been ordered closed for this season last year and that they had a security company lined up to help keep people from crashing them. So perhaps they knew way back then they where going to have to do this and put the closures and limits in place so that when people became homeless etc. they couldn't over run the state parks for free.
They have also passed a slue of laws making it illegal to park RVs etc in store parking lots over night and you aren't allowed to keep any at a residence hooked up etc. Most of the cities around us here have also banned them even being stored at a private residence, you have to take them to a storage place and pay a monthly fee to keep them there.

All I have to say about the whole thing coming is that most of the people here that have been responsible and taken measures to ride it out are going to be the one's to get over run by those who slacked off and waited till the last minute to do anything at all.
It really stinks; but as most of us here know the sheep expect everything to be handed to them on a silver platter. The platter is gone and all heck is going to break loose over it.
My family personally is leaving the city part of town and staying away from the larger cities like San Fransisco when it all starts to come down hard...real soon I bet. I just hate to think of how bad it is going to get in Southern California because frankly they have about 10X's as many people down there as we do and about 100X's the gangs.

Anyone actually surprised? This is what they get for unbridled spending with no concern for where the money is coming from. This is going to become the norm for the United States for at least the next decade plus some.

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Actually we already had a month long cut on the welfare checks/stamps, back when they where also holding the tax returns. It was hades on earth here for two months because of it.
It really isn't that long of a stretch to assume he/they will cut it off more now that they already got through it once.

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Good to hear from you stacie. I am glad to hear those ruffians never came back. You were too kind to not take a shot at them, I would have.

I'm sure we will be hearing a lot more accounts of CA like yours in the near future.

Southern CA definitely concerns me, as I have relatives in the area. I did manage to call them awhile ago to warn them. Thankfully they have also been preparing for such a happenstance.

The end of the California as the Golden State, liberal, socialist experiment!!!

The "nanny-state" idea has also been proved a failure for everyone to see.

The good thing for me is that I already left.

Now, if the illegals just go home, maybe they can start to put the state back together again.

I agree, things could start to get very bad. People do stupid and violent things when they have nothing to lose. I mean, pretty soon prison isn't going to look like such a bad place to some of these people. At least they get a bed and food.

Of course, when mass rioting does start, and the police have to start arresting people, how long until we get to a point where there are just so many people with nothing to lose that the law has nowhere to put them?

I guess that's probably where the FEMA camps come in...

The problem is those people in the tent cities are the ones that fall through the cracks. The welfare code is complicated and You can count Yourself out if You don't know the rules. These people are not helped because they do not fit the profile of welfare people. My grand mother hand to get food stamps for a while and she was turned down many times and when she finally received it they canceled it after a year because a anonomous tip said my brother was working when He was really going to bible school. I hate the system and I think it should be done away with because why should the majority suffer when the minority come upon hard times or make foolish decisions.

While I'm not a big fan of welfare...we have a crisis in this country that is generated by big banks, big companies robbing the public through our elected representatives. There are homeless and families springing up everywhere. The only bail out I'm for is one that goes directly to the American people, especially the ones that got caught in the middle of corporate greed and declining economies.

The state of California is going to collapse either way.

Which sucks but hey, whatever. It's what happens when you spent money nonstop.

If this does happen we in all likelihood expect to see the mexican population in Cal. being attacked as a result of the effected people laying blame on illegal immigrants for the lose of social programs .

C'mon guys, this is just a diversion

California is broke, but Obama just admitted that USA is broke too.
So lets talk the bigger picture here.
Obama refused to help California, Arnie has been set up to fail. And somebody else too has been set up to fail (Obama).
Like it could've been any other way.

The funny thing is these people want communism but in communism if You don't have a job You go to jail until You get Your act together. I believe a empty stomach is the best motivation to go out and get a job. I wouldn't know what to do if my industry closed down but I would still make a go for it. I will probably have to go to africa in the future to get work. I wouldn't ever resort to stealing though because whose to say the one You are stealing from is better off than You. If worse came to worse I would head out to the woods with my family and live like a cave man. We can point fingers all we want but when the rubber meets the road You are the one ultimately responsible for Your situation and You have the responsibility to take care of Your children not the people down the road that APPEAR to be better off.

wow this is of the utmost ridiculous, everything seems to tie in. . . Stared and flagged, just doin my job!

Where are all of the liberal super rich and elite of California who have all supported big state government when times were good?

If they really believe in a big tax and spend government then they should all gladly step forward and hand over their billions to the state they have helped build in its time of need.

They wont they're greedy.

So I suggest a people's initiative to raise taxes on the richest Californians to 90% of their earnings and net worth... Do it before they can leave the state.

Spread the wealth before they abandon the hills and Hollywood!



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That would probably lessen the chance of riots. Or at least just get the minority mad instead of the majority.

This is just fear mongering for tax hikes, he would never do such a thing, and if he did I would applaud him because people need to be weened from the government tit. I am against welfare, it hurts the very people it's trying to help.

I feel as if this is just a threat to be able to push more taxes through the legislature.
If we really wanted to save money in California, we should stop paying every one of our politicians $140,000 a year and stop paying other state workers $20+ an hour.

Just as in Colorado, where I live, the only way for that to happen is to make living here illegal unrewarding. Currently that is not the case. Being an illegal alien needs to be made illegal again under the law and be enforced.