Originally posted by riley
So if they worked you would think they could be used..?
If lie detectors were 100% then they'd be used in every case not just rape and yes i'd support them. At the moment however they are nothing more
than voodoo, i know they are used in some court rooms but the entire thing is really sketchy. You can look that up on google and find out more, they
really are awful things.
Originally posted by riley
EXACTLY. It would be VERY hard to fake rapes where some violence is involved which is another reason why it's usually only these kinds of
rapes make it to a courtroom.. there is not much chance of a false conviction simply because they need alot of evidence to make one in the first place
to make sure it was not consentual.. otherwise it's just he says she says. I assume that means semen and bruising etc.
Well the only rapes where violence isn't involved is statuatory and drunk/drugged rapes. These really do need to be assessed on their merits. Date
rape is a very tricky one for example, of course if rohipnol or something of that nature is found in the girls system then it's a damn terrible
thing. Drunken rapes are really difficult for courts and i would hate to serve on a jury over that kind of case. The flase rapes i quoted at the start
though i believe were not drunk or drugged..
As for statutory rape, it's a really difficult one. I again bring up my friend of a friend who was almost convicted of having sex with an underage
girl that he met in an over 18's nightclub. Should he be done for rape when he honestly believed she was 18 or over? That's a murky law and it must
always be addressed on the individual case. However i can tell you now that if he'd been done his life would have been much different.
Originally posted by riley
I do not agree with the media going over board on alledged rapists but a fairer courtoom? Rape victims don't even have that.. they're still vilified
on the stand so making it "fairer" on rape suspects would just screw over victims more.
You don't agree? Take a look at any media coverage of a rape case that turns out to be false. In fact it'll be easier to do if you just read the
papers and wait for one to come along. Watch the press vilify a guy over and over and when he's proven innocent he'll get a small apology, tucked
into the back pages about the size of a postage stamp. This is why i also support the idea that any apology in a newspaper should be as large and
cover the same pages as the original accusation.
Originally posted by riley
I'm not sure what you mean with better educated police either. If they stuff up investigations and falsely charge people for anything they
shouldn't be police at all.
[edit on 22-5-2009 by riley]
Well i simply mean police who have been coached, by psychologists to understand the language and body language used by rape victims. It would be a
case of sitting specialised officers down in front of videos of real and false rape victims and studying them. The police actually record many
interviews on video now, there is a massive database to draw on for such research. That would be a good start.
[edit on 22-5-2009 by ImaginaryReality1984]
But hey thanks for insulting me and not sticking to the topic, well done.
