The imbecile and his dumb Generalizations, page 3


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reply posted on 23-5-2009 @ 02:13 AM by Skyfloating
Originally posted by Mindmelding
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You're a victim of your own thread. Generalizing that all generalizations are the work of imbecils... I don't even have to ad hominem you (something which I try not to do anyway), you do it to yourself.


Not really talking about all Generalizations but a certain type.


reply posted on 23-5-2009 @ 02:50 AM by verastyle
I agree with you about these generalizations they keep people blind to there beliefs. like i always advocate peace and love and people just call me a tree hugger because i want a better life style, its a sad thing that probablyy wont change until its too late, but face it we all our guilty of making generalizations from time to time its a flaw and humans are flawed so it happens.

You and I have a somehwat similar outlook on things i think cuz i see everything as the grey area. to me there shouldn't be a right and wrong its these types of thought that perpetuate conflicts and division,(demorcrat republican, crip blood etc) religion is a good example cuz all religions preach for the same reason but argue and fight against each for minute differences in teachings. Like science and religion ,for example, instead of fighting one another over right and wrong unifying the two could produce the REAL answers that 2 are conflicted about(just an example)


And ya'll are probably gonna generalize me as a crazy n**ga but i think all these events( the civil war ur talkin bout) are going to play into effect in some way or another and may be beyond our control. Im sure you guys have all heard of the cycle of nature, i think we're just along for the ride i'm mean after all we are animals and these series of events happen for every generation like a never ending cycle maybe the earth isnt the only thing thats goin in a steady circle/orbit.like come on famine,war,poverty,civil unrest,rebellion pandemics,stock market crashes. it just keeps repeating in a never ending. Kinda like that one saying "know your history or you doomed to repeat" (not the accurate quote but the general form of it). I mean even upon knowing it nothings changing it unless people finally wake up from the idiot box they are trapped in


reply posted on 23-5-2009 @ 04:47 AM by Skyfloating
reply to post by Kailassa



The Illusion of "me" vs. "other" probably comes from the false notion that if there is no separation, everyone will be the same and things will be boring.

In my opinion its possible to be as ONE without being the same, without loosing individuality, without loosing national identity, with maintaining full diversity.


reply posted on 23-5-2009 @ 05:35 AM by Kailassa
Originally posted by Skyfloating
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post by Kailassa


The Illusion of "me" vs. "other" probably comes from the false notion that if there is no separation, everyone will be the same and things will be boring.

Now you've hit on what I believe to be the cause of creation.
The original one-that-is-all got tired of everything being the same and decided adding some other to the mix would make it less boring.

The other could only ever be an illusion, but, being part of the illusion, it's quite convincing and entertaining.

Adding greed and fear to the mix gave a better sense of separation and added the possibility of all sorts of adventures as some people were driven by these feelings to do detrimental stuff and others were driven to try and stop them.

It didn't take long for this sense of other to be exploited by those suffering excess fear and greed. They taught groups to put aside their own ideals and adopt those of the group, becoming a tool to be used by the puppeteers. - Of course evolution helped with this, as people who were part of an integrated society were more likely to have their children survive.

So now both present society and evolution and manipulation all combine to make us think in terms of generalities, grouping people into generic thems who we regard as so different to ourselves.

- Which makes threads like yours, helping people think about such assumptions, pretty important.


In my opinion its possible to be as ONE without being the same, without loosing individuality, without loosing national identity, with maintaining full diversity.

There will always be differences, but on a deeper level our similarities are much greater.

The trick is to get people to feel their similarities, while respecting and valuing their differences. Then we can be a community of Earthlings instead of a morass of warring groups.


[edit on 23/5/09 by Kailassa]


reply posted on 23-5-2009 @ 06:54 AM by Skyfloating
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I like to compare it to a puzzle. Each piece is different and thats good. But its still ONE puzzle.


reply posted on 23-5-2009 @ 08:20 AM by Mindmelding
Originally posted by Skyfloating
Originally posted by Mindmelding
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post by Skyfloating


You're a victim of your own thread. Generalizing that all generalizations are the work of imbecils... I don't even have to ad hominem you (something which I try not to do anyway), you do it to yourself.


Not really talking about all Generalizations but a certain type.


Originally posted by Skyfloating
Originally posted by Mindmelding

You're a victim of your own thread. Generalizing that all generalizations are the work of imbecils... I don't even have to ad hominem you (something which I try not to do anyway), you do it to yourself.



Im not saying that ALL Generalizations are a fallacy. Thats what the second poster said. I did not say that.


The fact that you replied to my comment twice to say the same basic thing shows me that you're not really thinking clearly about what you're trying to say here. This thread is poorly thought through and I honestly think you should delete it.

Just because some "idiots" make generalizations that are frustrating to contemplate dosen't give any of us the right to get on high horses and run them over. It's the same principle as teaching a child not to put food in his nose by talking gently to him or teaching him the same thing with a beating. One way is the right way the other is the wrong way. This thread is the wrong way, imo.



reply posted on 23-5-2009 @ 01:53 PM by Skyfloating
reply to post by Mindmelding



I agree that using a gentle tone is most often the correct way to convey information.

But this particular issue is so widespread and taken for granted that neither gentleness nor anger will make much of a difference. As I said, I posted this mainly for later linking-purposes and will use it as such.



[edit on 23-5-2009 by Skyfloating]


reply posted on 23-5-2009 @ 05:15 PM by Amagnon
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I agree

Breaking the 'true - false' paradigm is essential to gaining knowledge - where I would define knowledge as information that is neither true nor false.

I post on this subject often - I hope more and more will begin to shed the idea that everything they read or hear is immediately true or false. A think a more healthy way is to regard everything as possible.


reply posted on 23-5-2009 @ 05:45 PM by Witness2008
reply to post by Skyfloating



This is the recipe for an imbecile:

Step One: Take a young plump child then marinate in fast food, pointless arguing and family gossip.

Step Two: After a few years of marinating generously coat with parental fear leaving it stand for another few years.

Step Three: Place the child between the television, the Nintendo and plenty of hateful radio shows and zap the child until fully cooked.

Step Four: Remove the child from your presence and place into the world.

Happy cooking.


reply posted on 23-5-2009 @ 05:47 PM by Skyfloating
reply to post by Witness2008





I´ll file that under "things that are both funny and sad".





reply posted on 24-5-2009 @ 07:31 AM by Witness2008
reply to post by Skyfloating



Please tell me I did not kill your thread.

Another sin in our world is cynicism which I committed when I posted.


reply posted on 24-5-2009 @ 07:38 AM by Skyfloating
reply to post by Witness2008



I dont mind if threads stop. Interestingly, there is really not much to be said or discussed on the subject...
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