Originally posted by Ron Paul Girl
It's handy to have a biting dog too. My rott mix only bites with strangers come to the front door! Dumb mailman and UPS man have made that mistake and both took nips to their butts and never made that mistake again (they thought the dogs were nice so they came in. Yeah, barking dogs seem so nice).

Um, is it a problem for you to have a mailman come to your house? I don't see how having your dogs bit a mailman is something to be proud of.

Dumb mailman, trying to do his dumb job! He deserves to get bit for doing his job! That'll teach him for trying to deliver your mail.

Maybe he should just leave it out in the weather.

"the proper and correct
enumeration of all persons having their usual place of abode in
such premises, shall be fined not more than $500. "

So does this mean if I refuse to answer all they can do Is fine me 500 dollars ?
Or the only information that I have to give is how many people live in my house?

Lets all of us take pictures of the Agents, file/post and see how they liked being put into a database!!

Thanks for info " ObdurateReplica" star for you.....Do not be fooled. Do not answer the Census Bureau until it is due.
Get in contact with them and DEMAND that these GPS coordinates be removed, as this is blatantly unconstitutional !!

Originally posted by J-in-TX

"Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel."
1 Chronicles 21:1

Interesting quote.

What is the context of the story around it?

Can they put the GPS on your door without asking for your permission? Will you be able to recognize it on your door?

Originally posted by Ben Niceknowinya
If you wanted to intimidate him, grab your camcorder and RECORD HIM!

Also, take notes.......make it look like you're "plotting."

I'm betting he'll scurry away back under the bridge.

Or they might consider her a threat and then come into her home somehow without her knowledge one day while she's away and search it. Hope nothing is in it that would warrant them making excuses so they could treat her like a "terrorist". Don't think that such a thing could happen? The Patriot Act combined with much of what is being proposed right now could all this, within the realms of certain provisions that completely disregard our constitution.

Poor sap, Just trying to do his job, OP won't help him, Police won't help him. And then everyone starts judging him because he got angry.

If they wanna strike your house they can do it with ease, they don't need the cords of your front door.

Are you really a threat? The day they start killing average joe households, will be well after serious world events have happened so were probably already doomed e.g What caused this action, other countries actions based on these actions.

Edit* Because I was a jerk and had a go at OP, Sorry *

They should have rung all the house holds first, told them what it was for and asked for permission, If it was a good reason I'm sure most people would have given them consent.

But to solve the problem of the people who say no, they chose this tatic instead. Very sneaky.

[edit on 21-5-2009 by MalusDarkblade]

Originally posted by whatukno
It'a a freaking Census taker for gods sake.

This is constitutional. It really is. It's important to you and a free society.

This determines a lot of factors for our country, including representatives in Washington. The more representatives you have the better they are able to work for you.

...

What are they going to do? Launch a smart bomb at your front door? How really likely is that?

First off, unless I overlooked a post, no one was challenging the census itself, merely the attempt to demand access to private property to obtain GPS information. In this case, it is a rural resident, whom GPS information for emergency services is not a necessity. A person should have the right to deny access to property and information.

Now to address your question. Do I think it is likely, no. However, with the state of the government, I can't say I wouldn't put anything past them. The fact that many people would even consider such a possibility even remotely says a lot about the state of the nation and how the people have some degree of fear of the government.

Yet, all we can do is complain to each other here on ATS. We cannot get good men into political office in high levels, either by chance or by design, and those that do often fall in line with the corruption running the system. So I will do as everyone else does: continue to vent here and to close friends just to prevent the rage from causing a heart attack or aneurysm; vote for those whose stances are most inline with mine, and wait for it all to come to a head 'coz there is no stopping it at this point.

[edit on 21-5-2009 by Wolf321]

People be aware that some posts you find on this site or another are intended to get your opinion or to stir discussion on a particular subject/topic. I'm aware of this though still respond at times as if the poster was true in intent. I'm sure many ATS folk know this by now though I rarely see any mention of it.

wish i wasnt typing this on my phone lol.. but hear me out:

lets say every family is given a number, every number an address, and every address a gps, and every gps is on a national "grid".

fast forward 2 years, crisis has taken a toll on our nation. Ronpaulgirl is reported by a citizen as provoking people into anti government ideologies... with a name is an address, flagged the gps and on the grid shes now a red dot with her crimes as a caption. authorities in the area can detain, without charges, poor ronpaulgirl and her whole family on terrorist charges. don't pay you're taxes? tagged. caught speeding on camera? tagged. voted a certain third party? terrorist, you're tagged!

where does it end, who decides the limit, sets the bounds? perhaps im insane, paranoid, call me what ever... i listen to history, and history tells me it was a short step from hailing heroes to "where's your papers?!"

what does this tag look like? is it an actual tag? can it be removed by the owner?

these may be silly questions, but ive had census guys come to my home and i want to know it they tagged my home without asking me first.

Originally posted by phi1618
what does this tag look like? is it an actual tag? can it be removed by the owner?

these may be silly questions, but ive had census guys come to my home and i want to know it they tagged my home without asking me first.

The GPS device records the coordinates of your front door. Nothing physical is left for you to find. It's all electronic.

Originally posted by phi1618
what does this tag look like? is it an actual tag? can it be removed by the owner?

these may be silly questions, but ive had census guys come to my home and i want to know it they tagged my home without asking me first.

There is no physical tag. All they do is go to your door with a GPS device. The GPS device then takes the coordinates where it is and logs those coordinates into a big database.

So it's not an actual tag etc.