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Originally posted by Remiel
reply to post by Eitimzevinten
I agree, which leads me to another concern,"Genetic memory". What are your ideas on this? How does it relate to "Science of God" post?
Originally posted by Astyanax
Originally posted by SugarCube
As you say, time appears to be intrinsically associated with mass and what I would deem as the local event of the oscillation, therefore, time is encapsulated as an attribute of the the local event without being an attribute of The Idea per se.
By that logic, since time is also intrinsically associated with space (from v = s/t), wouldn't the Idea have to be extrinsic to space as well as time? If so it acquires the lineaments of fantasy, so far as inhabitants of this cosmos are concerned.
Now, all good men are tasked to exhalt God the Almighty as The Undifferentiated Power before all things. In that place without age or location, nor substance or measure, neither wet nor dry, neither earth, nor air, nor fire, nor light, nor darkness, God being before all things, in entirety as existence without definition may be described in absolute terms Omnia et Nihil. God was in essence and presence as The All without further discretion, or context, or comparison, that no constraint of measure, or age, or any other quality or quantity known to man may be applied and said to be relevant. For the understanding of man, we may term the nature of this state of being as ignorabimus as it is beyond all knowledge of the created.
We may conjecture The All as one of sublime paradox for the understanding of man, that each part may be termed the whole, that each moment may be termed as the ever, that light was as dark and dark as light, that high was as low, wide was as narrow, deep was as shallow. We may define no aspect in this existence as pertinent to the state of being but as nihilation without contradiction. So as each moment may be said to be the ever, so came the ordination de novo that we may now know as creation which may be shewn to have always been for that event without ante hoc or post hoc within the state of being of The All existed as a happening at coincidence with all other happenings that may be said to be, as everything and so as nothing and this may be known as The Idea. That the moment of creation did occur is only as known to man but as God may ever be described as omnipotent so creation has always occurred and was ever to occur. Now in action so did God perform the Greatest Sacrifice as issue of The Idea and in so doing did create one Substance from the very being of that most holy presence, Hyle, which may be called the First Matter. This conversion to a physical dimension may be ascribed to a single undefined moment excepting our understanding as the beginning of all things that are known, now and as yet.
Now, understand that Chaos is the first beginning of the first created from an Uncreated Being, that God omnipotent created in the beginning, but before the work of ages it was without shape and also confused. But afterwards all the most sound Philosophers nominated that Essence, the Mother and the first matter of the world and indeed the Universe as it may be known, in whose bosom innumerable forms lay hid, which the Omnipotent Builder, that great Spagirus, appointed in time to break forth, for God was as spirit in that Undigested Matter, Chaos, who some have affirmed ought to be called the Soul of the World, some the Form of Forms, others the Proximate Instrument of the Creator. Nevertheless, God’s design was of change and in that first moment all things that may only be known to man as post hoc, by The Lord’s Will, that The Divine Presence did in entirety become as substance and in doing so rendered all manner of artefact known to man. From the immeasurable divine essence did The Lord’s sacrifice spring forth the primordial matter and ordain the ages that man but measure as the passing of seasons and of the longevity of Sol and Luna.
We may also understand that the moment itself was created as may be a measurable quality of the new being, that each day and night and the division of either as we have come to understand may be accorded a name and a comparative relation with another and therefore determined and recorded as so. That man may assign futile measurement to the passing of each moment is not to equate understanding with knowledge. In the Infinite Wisdom of God and in accord with the Great Work so was the moment of age created to support the Holiest Sacrifice that we in turn may come to wonder at the same. That passage has no name or continuity excepting that which man may experience by design, so may all the sides of a dice be known but man may not predict with certainty the happening of each unless by the Grace of God who in All Knowing Wisdom has bequeathed all the ages of man in full knowledge of their destiny but with keen aspiration as to their making as with all things ordained so that some measure of unknowing may become again.
Originally posted by FeedingTheRat
There is no beginning of time or end of time. There is only time and matter. Matter is shifting in time. The very first assumption at the head of the thread is wrong.