I am a mason in Michigan..plain and simple..to be one ask one. Were not evil, or out to control the world. It's about helping your fellow man, and giving back to your community, and a brotherhood. If your a brother, then you are welcome to any lodge anywhere in the world anytime. My masonic brothers are some of the best people I have ever met in my life.

but the information we share with each other is kept a secret, this practice dates back to the beginning of the order, it's just to keep the tradition.

Ask a Catholic if joining the Church is a good idea. Ask him how he feels about his Church, and other Catholics.

Of course he will be completely open about his faith and tell you the absolute unbiased truth.

Ask a Freemason if joining the Lodge is a good idea. Ask how he feels about the Craft, and other Freemasons.

Of course he will be completely open about his craft, and tell you the absolute unbiased truth. He will reveal all the Masonic secrets so you can make an informed opinion.
Yeah, sure he will.

My friend, do whatever you wish to do.
Follow your own conscience.
I am not going to save your soul, or even suggest what you should do with it.

If you are spiritual, pray for guidance, it will be given you in no uncertain terms. If you are not spiritual, flip a coin and hope for the best.

The world is now locked in deadly spiritual,warfare between the God lovers, and members of the Craft. (Both Freemasons and Wica Witches follow their respective crafts). Guys cannot become witches any more than the girls can join Masonry.

Choose which side you are going to be on in this spiritual war, and hang on.like grim death.

It is going to be a very bumpy ride for all of us in this spiritual war.

wow since when did wanting information on what a group does have anything to do with a "spiritual war" thats so absurd. All the buzz about secret societies and their evil doings is just so stupid. PM me if you want some information on tis since the only replies you seem to get are just 40 yards short of relevance to your topic.

Spiritual warfare IS the big issue here.

The Occult origins and the secrecy and deception that is the foundation stone of Masonry is widely known about, even if the exact details need some research to uncover.

Just bear one thing in mind.
A secret society that binds you with oaths (upon your very life) before you know what it is all about.is a fairly dangerous undertaking.

When you visit your prospective lodge as a visitor, ask for a written copy of the sworn oath you will undertake as an entered apprentice, BEFORE you take that oath.

They will not give it to you.

That should start alarm bells ringing if nothing else does.

Then I will ask you this, are you a member? no... How do you know the info from the ones who claimed to be members spilling the truth is legit...I could claim to be a green beret serving under a special operation division, disprove me! My military records for civilian use will only show so much to you. I have a copy of my oath and entire entrance ceremony from my lodge..do you? no..you do not. If you were to ask for it before you were a member..you would not get it, because you are not a real member yet. I was never threatened to be killed if i told of the all powerful "secrets" I would lose my membership yes..but be killed c'mon You get a book after you passed your third degree which has in black and white all the words spoken during each ceremony

stop believing the history channel specials and youtube videos

there is no Masonic conspiracy, it's absurd to think otherwise.

Yes you are quite right.

The oath you will take is secret, and binding. You will not be given it in advance.

But you will most certainly be given a very strong reminder of your "obligation" afterwards.

I have here a bill of sale for a block of land.
I expect you to sign this document without first reading it.

The details of this land and the price I demand are secret.
The document is legally binding once you sign..

You will not be told what you have bought, or how much it will cost until you have signed it. The details are secret.

Once you have signed the document you will be given a copy.

That is how Freemasonry works.
You are led into it completely BLIND and the oaths are binding.
You will forfeit your very life if you break this obligation.

And that is fair enough, because that is what you agree to.

Blindfolded, with a hangman's noose around your neck, and a dagger held at your heart you swear an oath under duress you have no knowledge of beforehand, that you cannot later revoke.

Sounds like fun, huh ?

I wold like some of you Craft Brethren to deny this is true.

Good timing. I actually spoke to a fellow of the Craft a few days ago (May 29th to be exact); We were discussing historical figures that have been Masons throughout history and a question of membership was brought up to me. I was intrigued, so I asked what was necessary to become a brother.

He told me to research two things:
1: Key of Hiram (this is a book)
2: Hiram Abiff (this is a supposed person)

After doing so, if I were still interested, to contact him. All that is needed to become a brother is to know one, believe in a god, and be a decent person.

I suggest doing some research on the above two subjects and deciding from that point. Good luck.

Originally posted by Egyptia
Also keep in mind that most active masons don't really know themselves. They are told what the higher levels feel they 'need' to know to keep them functioning on their level. The key is in finding an ex-mason of high degree, preferrably 32nd or 33rd.

Except, of course, the fact that any master mason can go from 3rd to 32nd° in the Scottish Rite in one weekend for around $175 last time I checked. No big secrets imparted, just hours of watching guys put on plays. Not nearly as big a deal as people make it out to be. Don't get suckered in by the big degree number. It means nothing.

Oh yes, study Hiram Abiff, and learn all about Masonry.

If you want to know about Bush, Cheney, 911, and all about the guy from Kenya, and all the corruption deception and evil in the US government today, just study the life of Thomas Jefferson.

If you study Jefferson in detail you will know everything there is to know about American Government and how it works,

Study Hiramic Legend and know absolutely everything about Masonry.
Yeah, right............

Originally posted by Silver Shadow
The world is now locked in deadly spiritual,warfare between the God lovers, and members of the Craft. (Both Freemasons and Wica Witches follow their respective crafts). Guys cannot become witches any more than the girls can join Masonry.

Choose which side you are going to be on in this spiritual war, and hang on.like grim death.

Right, so the Freemasons are allied to the Wiccans in this "war"?

What side are the dragons and vampires on? Coz I'm totally sticking with them... They've got the good stuff, with the flaming breath and immortality and whatnot.

Originally posted by Egyptia
If you want the truth maybe ask an ex-mason that was a 32nd or 33rd degree. Otherwise you will never acquire the truth, especially if you go to a lodge or a fully active Mason. This is largely due to the fact that they are sworn to secrecy. They will only tell you generic things. Also keep in mind that most active masons don't really know themselves. They are told what the higher levels feel they 'need' to know to keep them functioning on their level. The key is in finding an ex-mason of high degree, preferrably 32nd or 33rd.

Firstly, you don't seem to understand that 32nd & 33rd degree Masons are no more senior than 3rd degree Masons. Furthermore, the 32nd and 33rd degrees are of an appendant body of Masonry called the Scottish Rite which, similarly, has no authority over the rest of Freemasonry. Thirdly, some Masonic appendant bodies don't even HAVE 32nd or 33rd degrees.

There is nothing magical about the 33rd degree. It is a great honour within Freemasonry, but it isn't the point at which the "veil is lifted" and suddenly the Mason becomes aware of all kinds of secret mystical stuff, nor is he invited to join some vast cabal of hand-wringing puppetmasters.