Originally posted by Amaterasu
The one thing I know about Masons is that one has to believe in some deity outside oneself to join.

This is true, you must believe in a diety/super-consciousness/higher entity/etc...There is nothing saying that it has to be outside ones self.

Although I don't think you'll find any followers...lol

This precludes me (as well as my bodily configuration - female - for most lodges), as I believe we are all "pieces" of God...

You're idea of God does not disqualify you. There is no predefined perspective of God. Being a female only disqualifies you from 'regular' freemasonry. There are still irregular Masonic lodges that initiate women. (Irregular meaning not supported by mainstream Freemasonry.)

So a Mason I will never be.

Edit: If that is your will, so mote it be.

[edit on 5/21/2009 by Choronzon]

It's nice to see someone trying to get at the source instead of just buying into the negative ideas and theories right away.

Honestly, if you want to talk to a REAL Mason, and you feel that you will get the "truth" from them then you can go to your local Masonic Temple and actually ask to speak to a Mason also they will give you a DVD and some reading info.
But also, some would say not to trust a word a real Mason says, that's up to you to decide.

My father is a Mason and trust me a lot of the things you'll hear about them are way off.

People just give them a bad wrap because some "evil" people felt the need to be part of the Masonic Brotherhood to live on their family traditions, but not EVERY Mason is a devil worshiping NWO groupie or leader.

Don't get me wrong, there may be people in the Masons that are part of the NWO but the Masons as a whole, no.


Also if you're going to read info off of the internet, try to read two positive things for every negative you read about them (since the negative always seems to be so extreme).

Also look into the Shiners, to me they are great when I was born with a severe spinal cord defect they founded the hospital rooms, time and equipment for me over a million dollars worth when my mother was told by the Government, and other Doctors to "just give up" and then the Jerry Lewis Foundation or whatever it was called screwed us over , I couldn't get insurance because I was adopted so my mom actually wrote a letter to A famous Mason named Ernest Borgnine and he got me everything I needed to be able to live and not be crippled and so on.

Even if they have a bad agenda for doing these good things, in the end they are still giving life and helping other who would of other wise had no chance at all.

Who knows maybe I'm implanted with all kinds of microchips...don't think it hasn't crossed my mind after reading some of the stuff on here and other sites.


Please don't flame me for what I say.
I am not saying some of the claims or ideas are completely wrong or false.
I respect everyone's opinions and feel that some of them are justified.

Just giving my experience and that is all.

Good Luck with your quest OP.
Remember to find the facts for yourself and draw your own conclusions if it be the popular one or not so popular one, just make it your own.

[edit on 21-5-2009 by pop_science]

Originally posted by getreadyalready


Amaterasu, a lot of Northern lodges are accepting females now... I have heard of Wiccans and "New Age" type spiritualists joining by applying this definition broadly. My lodge is deep in the South, so I don't think they are quite ready for it here yet, lol!

Just to note, there are no mainstream Lodges, northern or otherwise, who admit females. There are however Co-Masonic organizations that do so.

Wiccans are perfectly welcome to become Masons providing that they meet the other qualifications. It is my understanding that Gerald Gardner, the founder of Wicca, was a Mason.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
A lot of information would be frowned upon if it were shared openly on this type of forum. Although the majority of what we discuss is not "secret," it is meant for the few people with a keen interest and an earnest desire to better themselves. Unfortunately, it is specifically not for people who just want to know more without going through the process of joining.

I personally know a guy who joined a local lodge about a year ago simply to find out what it was about.

He did the first and second degrees, and then left the masons before ever completing his third, simply because he gained nothing from it.

I asked him why he left, and he admitted to me that he's always been interested in conspiracy theories (even writing a book), and just wanted to find out if there was any truth in them. He was totally disappointed, and said it was nothing like what he expected.

I agree that unless someone has a real interest in Freemasonry, it would be a total waste of time and money for them to join.

To the OP: Definitely agree with the www.masonicinfo.com suggestion. There is heaps of info on their site.