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Ufo Disclosure Edgar Mitchell CNN 4 21 2009

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posted on May, 20 2009 @ 10:37 PM
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More CNN Coverage regarding disclosure.
Interesting Comments on coverups and disinformation on this.
We are not alone here we have been visited are his words.

Im sorry if this has been already posted


[edit on 20/5/2009 by theflashor]




posted on May, 20 2009 @ 10:46 PM
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Dude, when he was up on the moon, he had to have seen something. Why else would he be so adamant about saying "We have been visited"?
I understand that he is not point-blanking it, but that's just the thing. Maybe he can't say it directly.
But he indicates that something is definetly up.
He's just treading softly, IMHO.
I applaud the guy. I don't think he's getting senile or something either.



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 10:49 PM
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no it annoys me when people dismiss his claims as words of a crazy man, when he clearly is not. He should be given much more credit then what he currently has been. Im glad the scene does seem to be changing though.



posted on May, 21 2009 @ 06:45 AM
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This is not new, he has been saying this stuff for over a decade. The problem here is, he says he has NO DIRECT knowledge of anything specific, only that people have "fed" him bits and pieces. Without knowing who those people are, you have to dismiss this man's claims.

And just to clear the air here, if someone is a pilot, police officer or and astronaut that does not mean they are more intelligent and have greater powers of observation than you and I. They are human first (susceptible to regular dreams, fantasies and desires). Some of the dumbest people I know are pilots, and I even had lunch with an astronaut once and told my wife afterwords that I was glad he wasn't our pilot on the way home, lol.

Too much weight is put on words that come from certain people without giving pause for real thought. Seriously LOOK into Ed's history and tell me if you take what he is saying at face value......

Then go SERIOUSLY look into Gordy's remarks and you will see a pattern here.....I could spell it out for you, but seeing some moron like me post it on a bulletin board doesn't help anyone unless you take the time to look into it and reach your own logical conclusions based on reason and common sense.



posted on May, 21 2009 @ 07:57 AM
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Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
And just to clear the air here, if someone is a pilot, police officer or and astronaut that does not mean they are more intelligent and have greater powers of observation than you and I.


Perhaps not, but you can't deny that it puts you in a certain loop...and people that can't speak publicly will certainly speak amongst themselves.

This is also a guy with an awareness of his role in history...he knows his words, however carefully chosen, have weight. When you speak in the abstract, you aren't spilling official secrets, right?

I may not be chuggin' the Koolaid, but this one gives you pause.



posted on May, 21 2009 @ 08:28 AM
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Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
.. if someone is a pilot, police officer or and astronaut that does not mean they are more intelligent and have greater powers of observation than you and I. They are human first (susceptible to regular dreams, fantasies and desires). Some of the dumbest people I know are pilots, and I even had lunch with an astronaut once and told my wife afterwords that I was glad he wasn't our pilot on the way home, lol.


I'd disagree with you there -policemen are highly experienced in reporting what they see and are generaly credible witnessess (as are aircraft pilots)

Heres some Police reports:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

And other statements made by aviation professionals/military personnel:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

If we're using reason and common sense (as you suggest) then one could speculate that the phenomenon these people are reporting is a very real one and not fictitious or illusionary.



posted on May, 21 2009 @ 11:18 AM
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I HATE how CNN laughs about these issues. They make people who believe in UFO's out to be crazy mental people when they are clearly not.

CNN is just bogus worst news station that claims they report the FACTS when they clearly report NOT ALL of the facts. They lie and give false stories or beef up there stories and lie some more.

CNN needs to be canceled for ever.



posted on May, 21 2009 @ 11:23 AM
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When one realizes there is only one universal consciousness that comprises all living things, only a fool would deny the existence of aliens.

Of course they are already here, because in reality there is no here nor there, only the vast expansiveness of the divine universal loving consciousness.

Anyone can experience this fact for themselves. Trusting the word of others is not enough, you must see it for yourself.



posted on May, 21 2009 @ 11:55 AM
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Someone has gone through a lot of trouble to make sure most people think he's crazy, and have done the same for many others. At this point, all we can do is keep pushing and ignore the people who buy it. Whoever is keeping this secret may have all the power, but without us, their power is useless.



posted on May, 21 2009 @ 12:00 PM
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Hey, Just wanted to ask you a few questions if you don't mind. First, what is your position on UFOs and Aliens? Do you think they are visiting planet earth etc? Second, do you think that everything has logical explanation all the time even if we do not know much about the topic?

Please answer me these questions at your most convenient time.

Thanks for your time.

Greetings,

The Coward



posted on May, 22 2009 @ 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by impaired
I understand that he is not point-blanking it, but that's just the thing. Maybe he can't say it directly.


He is still under 'contract' to NASA IE his PENSION... he will never say anything SPECIFIC about what happens while with NASA... That is why he heavily focuses on other incidences...



posted on May, 22 2009 @ 02:36 PM
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Here is another quote by Mitchell.

(Regarding government cover-up of UFOs)
"That's putting it mildly. We've been lied to and covered up. It was a military rationale 50 years ago. Now it's a bureaucratic morass. I doubt if higher-ups even know what the right answers are."
(Regarding why a cover up at the beginning)
"It would rattle our foundations."
(Regarding Area 51, the secret military base in Nevada where scientists study crashed alien spacecraft and their crews)
"Was briefed, even recently, by 'old timers' who were there, but I can't say by whom."
(Regarding the Roswell incident, in which aliens, some alive, were recovered after a July 1947 crash)
"It was valid. I've been briefed."
DR. EDGAR MITCHELL
Apollo 14 Astronaut
As reported in the Palm Beach Post
February 10, 2004



posted on May, 22 2009 @ 02:40 PM
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Here are two other quotes from Mitchell that show you how he bounces around (to the distinguished Zorgon's point).

So after reading these two quotes, where does he really stand? Is he trustworthy or an old man trying to fill in his pension shortfall? You decide.


I have been over the years very skeptical like many others. But in the last ten years or so, I have known the late Dr. Alan Hynek - who I highly admire. I know and currently work with Dr. Jacques Vallee. I've come to realize that the evidence is building up to make this a valid and researchable question. Further, because my personal motivation has always been to understand our universe better, and my own theoretical work has convinced me that life is everywhere in the universe that has been permitted to evolve, I consider this a very timely question... By becoming more involved with the serious research field, I've seen the evidence mount towards the truth of these matters. I rely upon the testimony of contacts that I have had - old timers - who were involved in official positions in government and intelligence and military over the last 50 years. We cannot say that today's government is really covering it up - I think that most of them don't know what is going on anymore than the public...
DR. EDGAR MITCHELL
Apollo 14 Astronaut
MSN Interview 10/98


"We're way, way past time for bringing this information to the public, acknowledging it and entering into the sort of discussions at the highest levels of congress and the government - to make this information available to the public. It's far, far past time for this. If we don't do it here, I don't know when we'll ever going to be able to do it."
"I think our representative democracy is in danger....I think events are moving so fast, so very rapidly, that no one is really on top of it, and if we don't get the people mobilized here to demand that we get to the bottom of these issues we're talking about today...we're not going to have an opportunity forever. This is a key issue that we are talking about."
DR. EDGAR MITCHELL
Apollo 14 Astronaut
Interview with Art Bell Show
January 5, 1998



posted on May, 22 2009 @ 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by xweaponx
I HATE how CNN laughs about these issues. They make people who believe in UFO's out to be crazy mental people when they are clearly not.

CNN is just bogus worst news station that claims they report the FACTS when they clearly report NOT ALL of the facts. They lie and give false stories or beef up there stories and lie some more.

CNN needs to be canceled for ever.


Dude, its not just CNN, it is all the mainstream. And its not their fault, its ours.

I'm too lazy to retype my opinion on this, but THIS THREAD is a darn good example that holds up my point.

Not picking on that thread specifically, just one where I remembered posting in that I searched for easily. But, it is things like that, true or not, that make us all look like fools and whackjobs to the mainstream, and I think my reply in that thread pretty much sums it up.

Nobody wants to hear it, but it is what it is.



[edit on 22-5-2009 by IgnoreTheFacts]



posted on May, 22 2009 @ 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts

I'm too lazy to retype my opinion on this, but THIS THREAD is a darn good example that holds up my point.

Not picking on that thread specifically, just one where I remembered posting in that I searched for easily. But, it is things like that, true or not, that make us all look like fools and whackjobs to the mainstream, and I think my reply in that thread pretty much sums it up.


You say you remember posting in that thread, but I don't see your post anywhere. It wouldn't be hard to find, given the subject matter and the way the debunkers are treating the OP. He's not trying to offer any proof, just sharing a very cool experience, and all the debunkers are doing is moan and bitch about the video not being clear enough! Totally missed the point of it all!

Still waiting for a response to The Coward at the top of the page - what exactly do you believe in when it comes to UFOs and aliens? Why do you use inclusive pronouns such as "us" when you clearly don't speak for "us" at all. That thread you linked to says it all - it's that kind of attitude that wants the OP to come across like a whackjob - nothing to do with the 'mainstream' at all. For all you know, there may be a lot of so-called 'mainstream' people saying 'good on you' for sharing a really cool experience.



posted on May, 22 2009 @ 07:35 PM
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Great great find! A star and a flag all for you!

Things are slowly getting tense! Aren't they?



posted on May, 22 2009 @ 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by The Coward
reply to post by IgnoreTheFacts
 


Hey, Just wanted to ask you a few questions if you don't mind. First, what is your position on UFOs and Aliens?


I didn't know I had to have a published opinion. Is this so you can stereotype me or pigeon hold me to some ideal? Or is this so you can attempt to hold my feet to the fire if I ever "contradict" myself by changing my mind after reviewing more information on a given case/subject?

My position on UFO's and Aliens you ask? Best way to sum up my position is in one word and leave it at that: flexible.


Do you think they are visiting planet earth etc?


I have not seen a smoking piece of evidence that compells me to believe that at this time, but the mountain of circumstantial, eyewitness and yes, even some videos tells me something is going on.


Second, do you think that everything has logical explanation all the time even if we do not know much about the topic?


Yes, I believe everything has a logical explanation. The logic of most things in this universe and even on this planet probably escapes us due to our ignorance. In place of that ignorance we make stuff up, guess, even fantasize. Most of the time we don't do this stuff on purpose. I can tell a child the thunder that scared him last night was nothing more than God bowling in the sky, and he could tell his little friends and for a while they will not be scared anymore. Then they grow up and know it is nothing more than the simple crack of atmospheric electrical discharge.


Please answer me these questions at your most convenient time.

Thanks for your time.

Greetings,

The Coward


Your asking these questions of me is designed to help you make a point, and I know what you are doing. But its cool.

[edit on 22-5-2009 by IgnoreTheFacts]



posted on May, 22 2009 @ 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by RiotComing

You say you remember posting in that thread, but I don't see your post anywhere. It wouldn't be hard to find, given the subject matter and the way the debunkers are treating the OP. He's not trying to offer any proof, just sharing a very cool experience, and all the debunkers are doing is moan and bitch about the video not being clear enough! Totally missed the point of it all!


You missed my point. And yes, the reply I wanted you to read is in This Thread about 5 replies down on the first page. Not hard to find, sorry you so easily overlooked it in your race to ignore what I was saying or twist it into something its not. I would have like to copy and paste my reply in that thread here, however it didn't fit this thread 100%. But it more than illustrates a point I made and applied directly to the frustration user xweaponx expressed in this very thread. He said he hated how the mainstream treated the subject we all hold so dear, and I gave him one of possibly many reasons they do so with examples. Sorry you disagree. But I must be right, because we do get laughed at in the mainstream constantly. Do you think we get laughed at because of Ufology's methodical, logical and professional investigations that make us appear educated and polished, or do you think they laugh at us for the more obvious things that you can see on every UFO bulletin board out there? Seriously, I know that upsets a lot of us, but it is the reality we live in. Don't hate me for explaining it.


Still waiting for a response to The Coward at the top of the page


Hopefully my eagerly awaited response to your cohort in my other reply satisfies your blood lust.


Why do you use inclusive pronouns such as "us" when you clearly don't speak for "us" at all.


When I use the word "us" you will see that I am commonly referring to how the average Joe, or the mainstream media groups, view the people that are interested in this subject. To them, you and I are the same person. We all look alike to them. Its wrong, but it is true. And, just like any group, the loudest and most colorful usually end up representing and establishing the stereotypes that the rest of the group will be instantly compared to. I don't like it, and you don't like it, but that is the reality of the situation, so when I say "us" now you know. When the media are laughing at "us" they are laughing at you and I. Us.


For all you know, there may be a lot of so-called 'mainstream' people saying 'good on you' for sharing a really cool experience.


Man, do I ever wish that is true!

[edit on 22-5-2009 by IgnoreTheFacts]

[edit on 23-5-2009 by IgnoreTheFacts]



posted on May, 23 2009 @ 01:42 AM
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Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts

For all you know, there may be a lot of so-called 'mainstream' people saying 'good on you' for sharing a really cool experience.


Man, do I ever wish that is true!


Yeah I just bet you do



posted on May, 23 2009 @ 01:45 AM
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Originally posted by impaired
Dude, when he was up on the moon, he had to have seen something. Why else would he be so adamant about saying "We have been visited"?
I understand that he is not point-blanking it, but that's just the thing. Maybe he can't say it directly.
But he indicates that something is definetly up.
He's just treading softly, IMHO.
I applaud the guy. I don't think he's getting senile or something either.


Yea he probably can only say so much but he knows that what he can say is 100% the truth.

Also the whole old people are senile just because they are old is one of the weakest arguments you will ever see here on ATS....Holds no merit

Just another stereotype.



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