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Famed Remote Viewer Reveals Alien Secrets

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posted on May, 21 2009 @ 10:02 AM
reply to post by starwatcher1

Well being a long time resident here in Alaska and researching the Mufon records I cannot find any moutain or lake that has reoccurring ufo sightings. I would assume if I was an alien I would use an out of the way lake so that might account for no sightings, however every lake is accessible here in Alaska and if I can get a name I will go and find out the validity of this refueling hot spot.

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 10:03 AM
That particular part of his book, they were in danger. Both he, Axel, and the incredibly gorgeous twins, could have had severe injury or death, and I believe they all sustained injuries. The craft that was drawing up the water, in Ingo's intuitive spontaneous remote viewing of it in sight, he assessed that it was like an autobot, programmed to retrieve water for perhaps a base, and it unfolded in space so speak, it also randomly attacked all life forms picked up on its sensors, such as deers, squirrels even, and made a commotion around it.

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 10:06 AM
reply to post by mystiq

Wow so if I find this lake I am never coming back. Make sense if I wanted to make a statement that could be proven I would then have to find a way that would make it unprovable. Kinda like "If I tell you I would have to kill ya" All roads merge on the murky road to remote viewing.

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 10:10 AM
Thank you ill search on that search engine and see if I can find it. I was just looking around for it and didn't find anything but I did find this which intrigues me very much and boosts my confidence on truly understanding the way my mind works. I am a very creative person I've been drawing since I can remember and still draw as much as possible to this day,I'm also a tattoo artist and try to be creative as possible in everything I do and sometimes get lost in my own mind. (But that's a whole different story) but here is what I found"Dancers, Painters And The Art Of Remote Viewing 0 by Michael Jura Now here’s something we don’t talk about very often.  Artists and remote viewing. It seems that ESP and remote viewing have a reputation for attracting conspiracy theorists and weirdos.  But this isn’t true at all. Dancers, painters, writers, and artists of all sorts have always been in tune with their more spiritual and psychic abilities. Which is of course amazing but here’s where the problem arises.  Because they are not always aware of their abilities they may be transmitting their ideas to other people. Artists with brilliant ideas and vision can become victims to this phenomenon. Just picture this: you’re an amazing artist on the up and up and you’ve got a genius idea for a painting.  You’re just waiting for some money to come through so you can get your supplies. But as you’re walking past a prestigious art gallery  you see your painting, your idea, down to the very last detail hanging in the window. A psychic pirate can cause just as much damage  as any other thief. This is something we need to look into and protect ourselves from. Gifted Artists and ESP: Quantum leap in the arts. Extremely gifted people, dancers among them, are developing the psychic gift of telepathy as part of this evolutionary process so many of us refer to as our spiritual revolution. In The Conscious Universe: The Scientific Truth of Psychic Phenomena, Dean I. Radin writes that artistically gifted people might have an edge on apparently anomalous cognition, claiming that the connection between anomalous cognition and creativity is seen in their capacity for discipline and focus, and in the fact that artistically gifted people have unusual access to unconscious imagery, along with unusual freedom to bypass the barriers that prevent such imagery from entering everyday consciousness. (p. 201) As Radin explains it has been known for quite some time that the CIA used ESP to see distant strategic locations through government sponsored remote-viewing research, even if after millions of dollars spent the CIA officially declared that there was no value whatsoever to remote viewing. Similarly, successful entrepreneurs and investment analysts admit that psychic techniques, especially precognition, are beginning to play an increasingly important role on Wall Street. (pp. 201-226) Similarly we would expect that in the arts ESP my bring numerous benefits to artists. But are these really benefits?". What do you guys think?

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 10:16 AM

Originally posted by alienj
reply to post by mystiq

Wow so if I find this lake I am never coming back. Make sense if I wanted to make a statement that could be proven I would then have to find a way that would make it unprovable. Kinda like "If I tell you I would have to kill ya" All roads merge on the murky road to remote viewing.

You don't understand, they were all at the location and under attack and had to withdraw into something akin to a shallow cave. The locals in the area knew of strange happenings, and there were others clued in as well. But you would need to scout your surroundings very well and choose a spot where you could retreat, as apparently Axel and these men had done, as they had been there before.

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 10:21 AM
reply to post by alienj

In doing a some quick research here is what I found. I don't know the area or if there are lakes around there, I would suspect this is what he is talking about. Take a look let me know what you find.

Mount Hayes

The next site is at Mt. Hayes, Alaska. It appears to be a weather
and geological center and has similar security measures to prevent
discovery. He described 'computer equipment' and followed leads on
an 'oscilloscope' which led to a small box like structure which
contained rotational antenna that sat on top of a mountain peak. The
receiver seemed to be part of a detection system.

'If they were discovered,' Price wrote, 'personnel are deployed
physically in activity to make sure of failure of that certain
project. This site has also been responsible for strange activity
and malfunction of US and Soviet space projects.'

Atwater suggested that if a probe was launched over this part of
Alaska, that it might be interfered in some way, to prevent
detection of the Mt. Hayes base.

'It comes to mind that these 'people' have infiltrated all
government in sensitive positions, not to control government, the
processes or people, but rather to be in positions of power to stop
politically any activity that may produce a result that could cause

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 10:24 AM
reply to post by mystiq

Sorry, I havnt read the book but I am sure if I knew there may be some danger I would find a place to retreat, or just set up some motion sensing camera's and keep my distance.

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 10:30 AM
reply to post by starwatcher1

I am completely familiar with Mt Hayes and have been there personally several times. Its a great place to go moose hunting and caribou hunting and have spent several overnighters around the mountain. I was also an avid snowmachiner and spent many of days playing in that area. There is some network towers and cell towers on that mountain but they are very minimal They are primarily used to transmit cell and tv to a small community called Delta Junction. Also Delta Junction is within 20 miles of the mountain and it can be seen clearly day in and day out from that city. I can vouch that people I know from DJ have never reported anything unusual to me.

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 10:36 AM
Here is some more info of how wide spread Remote Viewing is. It seems there were/are many on going programs by both the US and others:

Remote Viewing Underground UFO Bases

By Cassandra 'Sandy' Frost

Intro by the editor: Remote Viewing is a very controversial thing.
But what is even more controversial is when the best Remote Viewers
have perceptions of several underground UFO bases on Earth. Some
months ago the former Canadian minister of defence asked Canadian
Parliament to hold hearings on relations with alien "ET"
civilizations. He speaks of finally disclosing the biggest secret in
human history, ET presence on Earth.

When then Lt. F. Holmes 'Skip' Atwater began the US Army Remote
Viewing Star Gate program in 1978, he had no idea that he'd
challenge his viewers with targets like underground UFO bases.

Atwater grew up in a southern California home where it was normal to
talk about things like leaving your body and hands on healing.
During the Vietnam Era, on February 14, 1968, he joined the Army as
an intelligence specialist.

Along the way, Atwater had read 'Journeys Out of the Body' by Robert
Monroe, which described how Hemi-Sync (tm) binaural (in both ears)
beats enhanced learning, induced out of body experiences and
stimulated different states of consciousness. He also read 'Mind
Reach' by physicists Hal Puthoff, Ph.D. and Russell Targ, who later
introduced him to remote viewing. He was asking questions like 'What
is this remote viewing? What is Monroe discovering about our
consciousness with his Hemi-Sync applications?'

In 1977, Atwater packed up his wife and three kids and headed
towards his new duty station, Ft. Meade, Maryland, to join the US
Army's elite Intelligence and Security command program, Systems
Exploitation Detachment or SED. He worked on the Sensitive Activity
Vulnerability Estimate or SAVE team. Cold war commanders were
expected to take measures to protect ALL aspects of their
operational capabilities. Once a new threat was identified, the SAVE
team would 'attack' a command, challenging all aspects of security.

Exploring his new Ft. Meade office, Atwater opened up his safe and
discovered three Department of Defense documents "mistakenly" left
by his predecessor.

The first two described the Soviet Union's research into psychic
spying. The third was written by Targ and Puthoff and described
remote-viewing research at SRI International in Menlo Park.

Atwater read a 1972 report on how the Soviets were conducting
parapsychology research at over 20 separate institutions with an
annual operating budget of over 21 million dollars. The KGB funded
this research.

The other document described 'bioinformation' such as telepathy,
precognition and clairvoyance and bioenergetics like psychokinesis
and telekinesis. 'Sounds like remote viewing to me,' Atwater
thought. Soviet Remote Viewing was now considered as a potential
security threat.

The third document described Project SCANATE, highly classified, CIA
funded remote- viewing research conducted primarily at SRI that
demonstrated the ability of remote-viewing surveillance to acquire
and report intelligence to the intelligence community.

What is RV?

According to Atwater, Remote Viewing is: The acquisition and
description, by mental means, of information blocked by ordinary
perception by distance, shielding or time. A way of perceiving
something with mental powers alone using a scientifically designed,
protocol driven structured process for acquiring information.

Typically, a viewer and interviewer are isolated with a target,
which may be a picture or randomly generated numbers, in a sealed
envelope. Neither know what the target is and are both blind to the
target. This is known as working 'double blind' so the interviewer
can't feed information to the viewer. The interviewer might
ask 'Describe the location inside the envelope?' The viewer might
then make sketches or jot down brief word descriptions.

Atwater then designed a proto-type RV program to assess if we could
defend and/or hide our secrets from the Soviets and began working
with SRI to orient the first six candidates to remote viewing.

As operations and training, Atwater needed to 'determine the
operational capabilities and limitations of remote viewing,
identifying and developing the individual RV skills, and test and
evaluate the accuracy of remote viewing on unique targets.'
Challenge targets such as ET's and UFOs were used to hone skills and
stretch RV capabilities.

Pat Price's Underground UFO Bases

Atwater not only worked with Robert Monroe to develop his training
program, he also co-operated with Targ and Puthoff at SRI and
learned of a viewer named Pat Price.

Former CIA director Stansfield Turner described Price as 'A man who
could 'see' what was going on anywhere in the world through his
psychic powers.' ¬ Chicago Tribune, August 13, 1977. One day in
1973, Price walked into Hal Puthoff's office, tossed a file on his
desk and said 'You might be interested in these UFO bases.'

Price believed that ET's had established four underground bases, had
remote viewed them and provided Puthoff with descriptions of their
locations and functions. Hal Puthoff, Ph.D., founded and directed
the CIA funded Remote Viewing program at SRI from 1972 to 1985.
Price, who died under mysterious circumstances in 1975, was
believable had a proven RV track record and had neither agenda nor
any axe to grind.

Puthoff passed the same folder on to Atwater in the early '80's,
saying 'You might be interested in this.' At this point, it's
important to note that Price's information was viewed without
protocols, the results were not officially reported and Price did
not use sealed envelopes.

Price's report stated that the bases primary purpose was
to 'reinforce B.T.L. implants, transport of new recruits and overall
monitoring function.' Today, Atwater has no idea what B.T.L.
implants are and to his knowledge, no one has remote viewed this

Price also reported that the base inhabitants looked like us,
homosapiens, except for the heart, lungs, blood and eyes. He
reported that the sites were highly protected from discovery,
mutually supportive, and had very high technology. He also noted
that they used 'thought transfer for motor control of us.'

Mount Perdido

So where are these bases?

The first is at Mt. Perdido is in the Pyrnees Mountains, between
France and Spain. 'A famous set of caves in the Pyrenees have
ancient drawings of ancient astronauts and flying spacecraft,'
Atwater explained. 'And there have been a number of sightings here.'

Mt. Perdido, aka Mt. Perdu, is 3,352 m, 11,007 ft. high and is the
third highest mountain in the Pyrenees. It's about a quarter inch
west of Andorra. Price reported that the main base was protected
around a 2-mile perimeter with detectors. Several craft were in the
launch recovery area and had what looked like an electromagnetic
field propulsion system.

Price's next underground base location is Mt. Inyangani, the highest
mountain (2,592 m, 8,503 ft) in Zimbabwe, formerly Rhodesia, Africa.

'Actually, it's more of a maintenance and tech center,' Price
viewed. 'This base looks like overhaul and maintenance unit. I see
lots of spare equipment. Parts are being welded in a vacuum area
with window area then parts are fused. A grayish white powder is
pasted on both parts then fused.' His attention was drawn to unit
that several were working on. It is a tubular grid system 'for
ionizing a layer of air.'

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 10:36 AM
They are among us...

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 10:37 AM
I never could figure out where the mountain in question would be, but I have heard things about the north country. There are areas in Northern BC, that are run by the natives primarily. To go there safely, you need an invite. And from what I've heard these areas contain many mysteries. So pinpointing the location to one that has a known base near it is probably not going to be the most accurate find. Also, with regards to certain kinds of activities, most people aren't just going to tell you.

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 10:50 AM
reply to post by Taymour

Not sure what the YouTube link has to do with the subject at hand but the link is not working. Could you re post the link again

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 10:56 AM
reply to post by mystiq

First thing I would like to say Mystiq is be careful who you get information from. Here in Alaska you can go just about anywhere you want to go without asking for permission expect for the military no fly zones etc. The locals up here do not restrict any land because it is Alaska native owned. However I do know for a fact that Navajo limit restrictions to some of their owned land. Alaska is huge and so is British Columbia but they are populated enough that most areas are accessible. We do have what is called the Alaskan Bermuda Triangle but there is nothing anomalous about it, its just the fact that there is such a vast wilderness to people who fly small aircraft ratio, so we are bound to loose a couple now and then. Lots of deep lakes and once they sink, there gone forever, lots of glaciers with hundreds feet deep holes so you can see small planes can hide just about anywhere. I am an avid UFO watcher and to be honest with you I saw more unexplained flying objects in the lower 48 than I have ever seen up here. The skies are bright and there is very little to distract from the night sky up here so I thought it would be a great place to view UFO's. It hasnt been. We do have a few famous sightings by the JAL flight and the military a couple of days later but that is it.

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 10:59 AM
I'm not suprised to hear this. Here's just a short story, no proof, just a story of what I personally experienced one day in Baltimore.

I was born with very strong synesthesia, an ability (or curse) of mixing senses, such as color-grapheme in which letters seem to have a color to them. This is a known "ability" and according to a study, performed in Sweden of 10,000 people, approximately 4% of people are synesthetic. I have the ability to sense auras, see them in my mind's eye.

So, to the story...

I was walking near Johns-Hopkins University in Baltimore and my attention was drawn to a man walking across the street from me. It was a curious feeling and I turned to see why he stood out. I noticed he had NO AURA at all! This simply doesn't happen in people (humans). Occassionaly if people are close to death they will have a severely diminished aura but never NO aura.

The disconcerting part of this experience for me was when I had the shocked thought of "what's up with this guy!?" he turned around very quickly and made immediate direct eye contact. He "felt" me thinking about him!

That's the whole story, a little spooky but no water-bording or black helicopters lol

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 11:48 AM
reply to post by the seeker_713g

You dont know how much I wish mine never did. Stupid family trait. It passes from father to son in our family, and considering my brother and I are the last two males with the original family name, the buried trait dies with us. Thank God.

@not really alive,

That happens to me sometimes, either walking around, or watching tv. It is hard to put a finger on but once you think about it for a while you feel you know exactly the reason. THe part i dont like is no one else sees it and you cant say anything to friends without being weird.

[edit on 21-5-2009 by guidanceofthe third kind]

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 11:52 AM
Why would you wish for this under any circumstances? This is enhancement and an upgrade.

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 11:59 AM
reply to post by mystiq

it might have something to do with my house giving off energy in the most chaotic fashion. For starters, there was a time when my family was going to make the first trip to drop my brother off at college. ITs a long trip and blah blah. Anyway, when I was sitting in the car waiting for my parents to finish preparing, a black dog of significant size walked past my open car door. Now, no one in my neighborhood owns a black dog, nor has one been seen since. The weird thing was that it was not feral and it passed by on the other side of the car right as my parents walked into the garage. Even my dad didnt see it, but my abilities extend far beyond his.
Not to mention rooms in my house, including my bedroom do not sit right with me. It is not that the energy is malicious, just that is there.

I would like to keep my attraction to electricity though. After about 2000 shocks of static, I have to say it feels pretty good. The ball lightning and the lightning strike (two separate instances ) that almost came through my bedroom window can stay out.

[edit on 21-5-2009 by guidanceofthe third kind]

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 12:09 PM
Okay what happened.

I wrote a post, posted it.

Then it seems at the same time my computer when putting me back to the page where it should have been posted put me back to said page but I was now logged off and my post wasn't posted.

I had to sign on again is something up with monitoring and should we be extra careful here at ATS.

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 12:37 PM

Originally posted by eathis
OK may aswell share a few experiences on said topic seeming as I need 20 posts to further my research into this field (google I know but I would like these cetain 'links')

Not sure what this is but I guess it's more out of body but sometimes when I'm almost asleep/freshly woken up or if I really concentrate (usually happens when doing a certain meditation) it's as if I'm seeing the room I'm in through my 'eyes' (or litterally through my eye lids :-)) yet my eyes wide SHUT. Sometimes it stops if I put my awareness on the fact I'm aware my eyes are shut. It's not my imagination showing me the memory of what my room looks like because often I experience this when someone walks into the room or I sense a presense, it's as if my mind's eye wants to check it out and therefore I have this experience. I've watched my girlfriend do a few things then I suddenly become aware eyes are shut so I open them and phase back into reality but with not much difference it's as if the only thing that I notice changing is the feeling of my eyelids opening which is then when I obviously witness what I was witnessing with my mind's eye through my own physical eyes.

Those are the 'extremist' most realistic looking hapennings but also sometimes I can think of a certain place and it really feels like I'm jumping out of my body and rapidly speeding to where ever I am thinking. .

My reasons for wanting these U2s

[edit on 20-5-2009 by eathis]

Hey Eathis-

What you just described happens to me too, just like that if I acknowledge that it's happening for some reason it stops-I would like to slip in to an OOB state from there but as soon as you try to do something with it...oh well, maybe somebody on here knows how to go from there and experience something further??

posted on May, 21 2009 @ 12:37 PM
reply to post by observe50

Good to see you on and posting Observer I am sure you have some insite on this subject.

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