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reply posted on 21-5-2009 @ 02:10 AM by pai mei
reply to post by jd140



"Think for yourselves" I say. That also implies "search for yourself" else you can't see the entire picture and judge it. Like sitting in a hole, you don't know whats above, maybe you say "I don't care , above is the same as here" ?

Am I unworthy of trust even if I say that ? What else you want me to say ?
If you do not trust even yourself something is wrong...

www.ascentofhumanity.com...
Schools train individuals to respond as a mass. Boys and girls are drilled in being bored, frightened, envious, emotionally needy, generally incomplete. A successful mass production economy requires such a clientele. A small business, small farm economy like that of the Amish requires individual competence, thoughtfulness, compassion, and universal participation; our own requires a managed mass of leveled, spiritless, anxious, familyless, friendless, godless, and obedient people who believe the difference between "Cheers" and "Seinfeld" is worth arguing about.

What school teaches us the most is not to think. Believe, accept what other have thought before you, then feel a sense of security in that, and destroy anyone who challenges those teachings.
Unlike "the sheeple" I have no intention to destroy them. Some of them would destroy me if they could. I was one too, a few years ago I was arguing about what a good thing Bush did invading Iraq, fighting the evil terrorists...

Believe nothing merely because you have been told it.
Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher.
But whatever, after due examination and analysis,
you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings -
that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.

Believe nothing on the faith of traditions,
even though they have been held in honor
for many generations and in diverse places.
Do not believe a thing because many people speak of it.
Do not believe on the faith of the sages of the past.
Do not believe what you yourself have imagined,
persuading yourself that a God inspires you.
Believe nothing on the sole authority of your masters and priests.
After examination, believe what you yourself have tested
and found to be reasonable, and conform your conduct thereto.


Buddha






[edit on 21-5-2009 by pai mei]


reply posted on 21-5-2009 @ 02:18 AM by jd140
reply to post by pai mei



I agree.

But if everyone believed that 9/11 was in fact carried out by our government. Wouldn't that mean they are "sheeple"?

Just because they agree with the official report means that they are deemed sheeple by those who believe other wise.

I guess I will never understand how a group who thinks one way calls another who thinks differantly sheeple.


reply posted on 21-5-2009 @ 02:26 AM by Stumpy1
Originally posted by alyosha1981
reply to
post by _BoneZ_



I honestly did not think that the conversation would result in me being called a terrorist, I thought people (even bar patrons) would be open for conversation and your right I won't be doing that again.


For future reference, unless you have proof of something as big as the US government carrying our a plot to kill some 10 thousand of our own citizens, using our own planes and people and do not have proof...maybe you shouldn't speak of it in public. Most of America is not in the conspiracy mainstream..most of them watch CNBC or MSN news or FOX news and are happy with what is being pumped into them. I don't know one way or the other what happened on 9/11 nor do I care other than the people who were killed.. The point is we have not one shred of evidence that the courts will look at to prove that it was anyone other than a terrorist cell operating in the US that did it..To me that sounds way to convenient..but I hold my reservations. I don't see why the US government would have thought this up to help out our economy when all it has done is send us into a downward spiral...but then again that is the Bush administration....I would just caution you from speaking out in public even though it is a constitutional right, unless you expect to get these types of reactions...I am on the fence with what happened mainly because I would not want to believe that the people in power would ever do this to their own citizens..but then again....I have seen a lot since to give me the idea they don;t give a rats ass about the common man..

[edit on 21-5-2009 by Stumpy1]



reply posted on 21-5-2009 @ 02:27 AM by pai mei
reply to post by jd140



Ok I don't call them "sheeple". Forget that video. I call them "people who let others think for them". Or maybe they are Zen masters and don't care about this stuff
When the planet is destroyed, the world is "Soylent Green"+1984 we will see if they behave like Zen masters, unaffected, or just people "who let others think for them".

If I myself researched and thought about something I am not afraid to believe in it, does not matter if all the others believe in it too, or nobody does.

The ones in power know about peak oil and environmental destruction. They want to save the planet but not for us, for them, to maintain control. So they are working for a 1984 world.

[edit on 21-5-2009 by pai mei]


reply posted on 21-5-2009 @ 02:46 AM by jd140
reply to post by pai mei



I wasn't accusing you personally of doing it.

I just see the use of the term used way to often for people who don't think the way some do.

They aren't deemed "sheeple" because they don't think like everyone else. But call others sheeple for not thinking their way.

Seems like a stupid thing to me.


reply posted on 21-5-2009 @ 03:59 AM by Perseus Apex
reply to post by alyosha1981



The best you can do is give them a brief recap of some 'video' you saw online and advise them to watch it for their 'own' good. Then be on your way. There's simply too much to say on the topic for an ignoramous to absorb. The ATS/Infowar folk are a 'rare' breed altogether. Never assume that others are tuned in like many of the folks here are.


reply posted on 21-5-2009 @ 06:47 AM by alyosha1981
reply to post by kinda kurious



I'll reply to all as I can(working) but I had to quickly respond here. Good observation on the alcohol issue, I did say I attempted to order another drink, however I didn't say what or how big. I know alcohol does in fact cloud the mind at times and I assure you I was not intoxacated beyond my control, I don't do that except for at home. But thanks any ways for the input it's always welcome.
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