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Postal workers in BNP leaflet row

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posted on May, 20 2009 @ 02:35 PM
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Well I've read all the arguments on here and debate and I've reached a conclusion.
This just about sums up what is wrong in the world today that people of a different skin colour--yes that's all COLOUR--can be hated so much by a bigoted minority in this country.
Yes brave men fought for our liberty in WW2,against the very thing that certain contributors on this thread are advocating.
immigrants and people of different nationalities, who contribute many things to our society are not our enemy.
Anyone who wants to cause pain and suffering to our brothers and sisters here are however , and those are the only ones that are unwelcome here IMO.
Life is too short --and for goodness sake ,live and let live.
We are all human beings.
All the same species.
Spread the love not the hate




posted on May, 20 2009 @ 05:02 PM
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I truly detest the BNP, they're an awful party. They are nothing more than Nazi's with half decent tailors.


However part of free speech is hearing things you just don't want to hear. If they don't want to post BNP leaflets then whats to stop a hardcore Labour supporter refusing to post a Conservative leaflet?

For those who are against immigrants please understand a few things. Firstly that the NHS would have failed years ago if it were not for immigrants, many farms would have been put out of business without the cheap labor coming from Europe and elsewhere that picked their crops. Finally please check out the Gurkas, these brave men fought for the UK and are immigrants! Hell i was born in the UK, as was my mother and her parents but you know what? A Gurka has more right to be here than i, they have fought for it, i haven't.

[edit on 20-5-2009 by ImaginaryReality1984]



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 05:09 PM
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I think its great that the postal workers are making a stand....personally i believe all false advertising or purposely misleading junk mail should never reach our letter boxes, the people behind the leaflets target & prey on people who are naive and are unaware ...partly due to the make-believe tv world they have everyone engrossed in.



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by blupblup


I think this is great news.
And more and more postal workers are refusing to deliver these leaflets around the country.

This has nothing to do with democratic rights or impartiality, it has to do with decency and morality.
And i for one applaud these workers for standing up for what they know to be right.



this is totaly undemocratic and kinda make me want to vote for them just to counter the censorship. if thay are so bad its up to the Individual to chose whats right not some post man/woman

thay are not rasist i think you confuse the bnp with the national front thay are just pro-british(any color with a brit passport) from what i read look at tha web site i can`t find any rasist comments or polices

edit in bracets

[edit on 20-5-2009 by Aceofclubs]



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by blupblup

Originally posted by solidshot
And just because the government gives you a permit for it means it's not racist how exactly?



Er.....are you serious?


This is available to ANYBODY!!!

So it cannot be racist?

Racism favours one race over another.
This "permit" is available to everybody.


If it were only whites who could get it then yes...it would be racist.

Same as if it were only Asians who could get it then yes.... it would be racist.


Understand?

[edit on 20/5/09 by blupblup]


Er.....are YOU serious?

Racism also favours all race`s over the native race. witch seems to be the way it is here in the UK E.G. why do all goverment forms and job applications ask your race, that in its self is a rasist question



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by ImaginaryReality1984
However part of free speech is hearing things you just don't want to hear. If they don't want to post BNP leaflets then whats to stop a hardcore Labour supporter refusing to post a Conservative leaflet?


I know it seems harsh.

But the BNP are a party of hate and intolerance.
They are disgusting and absolutely racist..

The labour and tories not posting each others stuff is petty.... it's not the same principal.



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by Aceofclubs
thay are not rasist i think you confuse the bnp with the national front thay are just pro-british(any color with a brit passport) from what i read look at tha web site i can`t find any rasist comments or polices
edit in bracets

[edit on 20-5-2009 by Aceofclubs]


I think you need to research mate....they ar the same thing....don't be so ignorant.


The BNP were set up by the NF founder.


The BNP are the acceptable face of racism of the UK...please don't support them, don't believe their propaganda and don't be so ignorant.



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 07:26 PM
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Originally posted by Aceofclubs

Er.....are YOU serious?
Racism also favours all race`s over the native race. witch seems to be the way it is here in the UK E.G. why do all goverment forms and job applications ask your race, that in its self is a rasist question



Are you serious...

You have no point and your interpretation of "racism" is slightly strange too.

And er....yeah...



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 07:30 PM
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if you think the bnp are not biggoted and a fair party, please watch the following videos, this was a very good documentry that was made by bbc using undercover reporters.















i do hope the vids post correctly, if not start at the link below.

www.youtube.com...



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 07:46 PM
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sorry to double post, here is the nick griffin interview from later that same night (after the expose was shown) on newsnight (bbc2)



also, some more to add .. a good scorce is wiki .. here is the first paragraph of his political career. en.wikipedia.org...




National Front and International Third Position

Nick Griffin became involved with the far right at the age of 15 when his father, Edgar Griffin, took him to meetings of the National Front (NF). By 1978, he was a local secretary for the NF.

In 1980, he became a member of the NF governing body, the National Directorate, when he also set up the NF Student Organisation. In 1980, Griffin launched Nationalism Today with the aid of Joe Pearce, editor of the NF youth paper Bulldog and twice imprisoned for incitement to racial hatred.[7][8] Nationalism Today became the springboard for the Third Positionist ideas that the NF later adopted.[citation needed] Writing in Nationalism Today in 1985, Griffin praised the black separatist Louis Farrakhan, saying, "white nationalists everywhere wish [Farrakhan] well, for we share a common struggle for the same ends: racial separation and racial freedom".[9]

Griffin left the NF in 1989 angry at where they were heading and in a split with Patrick Harrington. Harrington went on to form the Third Way. Meanwhile, Griffin joined with Derek Holland to form the International Third Position (ITP), which developed from the Political Soldier movement that had formed within the NF. Given the secretive nature of the ITP, it is hard to establish exactly when Griffin left, although he was still part of its leadership in mid-1990.[10] International Third Position (ITP) was a neo-fascist organization formed by the breakaway faction of neofacist British National Front and Italian neofascists[11] led by Roberto Fiore.




[edit on 20-5-2009 by boaby_phet]



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 07:48 PM
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As a member of the BNP. i feel that the people have a right to understand EVERY political party, the majority of these people who slander the BNP haven't even bothered to read up on the manifesto they think we are all a bunch of racist fat slobs.. how far from the truth can people be.. the naivety and immaturity of the British population astounds me

We stand for a Britain that is powerful and is not run by the Eurocrats and Anti British government who allow illegal immigrants work over native born British people. We arent racist we just don't agree with illegal immigration and that they should get priority over citizens of this historic land.

Labour has destroyed this country with their 12 year rule and Gordon Brown our UNELECTED leader drags us deep into recession and still leaves the borders open to criminals and terrorists. Last i checked this country was a DEMOCRACY and free for all views, we are a legitimate party with legitimate aims. Look into our manifesto i dare you.. then decide what you think about us. Lab-Lib-Con are traitorous, lying ,snivelling little children falling over themselves looking for more power,wealth and the "special relationship" with the "good" Ol' US of A.

If you read this i commend you for it


bnp.org.uk...



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by blupblup

I think you need to research mate....they ar the same thing....don't be so ignorant.


The BNP were set up by the NF founder.


The BNP are the acceptable face of racism of the UK...please don't support them, don't believe their propaganda and don't be so ignorant.


the BNP dose not accept the NF any longer. are you stuck in the sixtys? you sound like a communist you can`t ban a party and have a democracy. its down to the everyday man/woman to deside if thay agree with a party or not, not what you THINK should be allowed

i don`t see any rasist comments on the site
Here have a look for yourself
please point them out if you do

[edit on 20-5-2009 by Aceofclubs]



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 08:00 PM
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CX to let you know that "leaflet" never existed it was a smear campaign which the press then deleted and removed the story. The BNP are all for the Gurkhas.. The Gurkhas are legends and deserve respect and recognition for services to this nation.

by the way the hypocrisy of the parties is disgusting.. "Oh let us not smear each other it's despicable" then they let the press smear the BNP

current polls put the BNP at 11.2% if a general election was called
and 16-18.7% for Local and Euro elections.

[edit on 17/05/09 by Raider of Truth]

[edit on 17/05/09 by Raider of Truth]



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 08:04 PM
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getting 7 seats in the Euro Parliament= £15 million for funding the party. When a general election is called next year that will greatly help the party.



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 08:05 PM
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dam this post moves fast, i was going to add this to the last reply i done but it might not get seen.

ive spent the last few hours, watching bnp political videos on youtube so i can have an up to date look at their values... the following is the last one i watched, and pretty much says it all about the bnp.



one intresting thing ive noticed, for a party that uses the word "british" in their name, they sure dont act in the name of britain, they seem to be about england and england only.. which is worrying.

and one kind of funny bit in that vid, stop the video at 3:02, you get a nice picture of hitler shaking hands with nevile chamberland and the bnp's name on screen, very classy! ... and they are nothing to do with the nf ?

**aceofclubs



i don`t see any rasist comments on the site
Here have a look for yourself
please point them out if you do


after watching bnp party vids and nick griffin interviews for the last few hours, its blatent he is completly racist, non stop blaming muslims and black people and immigrants for everything he could ... thats pretty racist from where im from.

[edit on 20-5-2009 by boaby_phet]

[edit on 20-5-2009 by boaby_phet]



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 08:19 PM
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heres another good tit bit ..

after some digging, i found some good stuff to go looking for, their was a suggestion to search " MEIN KAMPF IS MY BIBLE" JOHN TYNDALL. BNP FOUNDER AND FORMER LEADER."

so i did

it led to the blog site of "councillor Terry Kelly " ( Paisley North West ) ( www.renfrewshire.gov.uk... ) i am posting the link from his site, as he is the closest to a good scorce so far.

councillorterrykelly.blogspot.com...


it seems this guy has done a fair bit of reaserch of his own, or course this coudl just be mud slinging, im looking for the original scorces as i type this (i know, i can multitask)



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 08:23 PM
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I like how you completely ignore the fact that illegal immigrants taking british jobs and benefiting from hard working citizens are chanting "Behead those that insult islam" "Islam will dominate the world".

And you complain about petty little things in a video.

the media completely ignore Asian/Black attacks on White britons but when a white guy strikes back it's front page news "WHITE MALE ATTACKS BLACK MAN" and you say that is fair? this country is not fair it has spiralled into a deep sense of corruption the time is now to remove the cancer that is the LAB-LIB-CON pigs.



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 08:31 PM
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thats because i dont buy into the scapegoat theory that "they took our jobs" , it just doesnt wash at all.

one main thing is the fact that these "illegals" you talk about work for british people who employ them as cheap labour. they dont come here and force their way into a job do they ? forther to that, theirs the fact that the illegal immigrants who do work in uk do the jobs others dont want to, not only that they do it for pennies as their being exploited by people who';s nationality is british..

i do think your slightly confused, immigrant workers are completly different to illegal immigrants who work, most people who come to work in uk do so 100% legaly, and if we really wanted to we could most likely go to their country and work. immigrant workers fill gaps in employment that need to be filled, they are contributing just as much to this country as you and me.

and for the record ... politicaly, i voted socialist in the past, i have not voted in a long time though , mainly as i just dont believe in it . . . their all as bad as each other (the main 4 parties lab,lib,con and snp*)


*snp addedd to the list as their the party who runs scotland.


[edit on 20-5-2009 by boaby_phet]



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 08:33 PM
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after viewing the videos and knowing the bbc have been caught out lieing about the bnp before i think the bnp are mainly right. i`m mostly liberal minded but these guys are starting to look like the only party thats not on a NWO/worldcapitalist agenda thay have a few faults but what more damage can thay do than the main partys have already done? the last video shows why



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 09:28 PM
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I just finished reading about the BNP and being an American I had no knowledge of who they are. I'd agree they are a sick group.

You need to ask yourselves however, do you value the freedom of speech in print so little that you are willing to throw it away over this?

Why would anyone chase the Postal Worker or blame them in the first place? It would take a person as out of line as the BNP to do that anyway. In fact it borders on insanity.



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