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Pasteurised milk vs raw milk?

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posted on May, 20 2009 @ 02:29 AM
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Many people have woken up to the benefits of raw milk. Before pasteurisation raw milk has been drunk for centuries. Now there is alot of controvesy and hype against raw milk. People have read up on the benefits and now want government controlled non pasteurised and homogenized raw milk to be available in shops.
THe milk contained in shops are homogenised, pasteurised, hormone filled, mucous forming.
People who drink shop bought milk have shorter life spans. Since alot of natural foods we are eating is full of chemicals and hormones is this a conspiracy to keep us diseased.
My family and i went to a farm that sells fresh raw milk and the taste was unbelievable. I find i did not get mucous as much as i did with store bought milk.
editor.nourishedmagazine.com.au...

Raw Milk Vs. Pasteurized Milk

By realmilk.com

From Armchair Science, London (April 1938)

There is no substitute for clean, raw milk as a food, so far as children are concerned. Science has not yet succeeded in providing, in the pasteurized variety, those essential qualities that are the only real foundation for a healthy child.

Unfortunately, many grossly distorted statements are current regarding our milk supply. If we are to believe the protagonists of the Pasteurization-of-all-milk-at-all costs Party, raw milk is as good, or rather as bad, as rat poison-although as the Minister of Agriculture recently stated, “the human race existed long before Pasteur was heard of.”

The process of pasteurization was debated in the House of Commons and the suggestion made that no raw milk should be sold for human consumption. This would mean installation of expensive machinery by every supplier, and if it should become compulsory there is little doubt that many small firms would shut down and the business pass in the hands of a few big dealers.

If we are to be compelled to drink pasteurized milk, we should at least understand what pasteurization means. It set out to accomplish two things: Destruction of certain disease-carrying germs and the prevention of souring milk. These results are obtained by keeping the milk at a temperature of 145 degrees to 150 degrees F. for half an hour, at least, and then reducing the temperature to not more than 55 degrees F.

It is undoubtedly beneficial to destroy dangerous germs, but pasteurization does more than this-it kills off harmless and useful germs alike, and by subjecting the milk to high temperatures, destroys some nutritious constituents.

With regards to the prevention of souring; sour raw milk is very widely used. It is given to invalids, being easily digested, laxative in its properties, and not unpleasant to take. But, after pasteurization, the lactic acid bacilli are killed. The milk, in consequence, cannot become sour and quickly decomposes, while undesirable germs multiply very quickly.

Pasteurization’s great claim to popularity is the widespread belief, fostered by its supporters, that tuberculosis in children is caused by the harmful germs found in raw milk. Scientists have examined and tested thousands of milk samples, and experiments have been carried out on hundreds of animals in regard to this problem of disease-carrying by milk. But the one vital fact that seems to have been completely missed is that it is CLEAN, raw milk that is wanted. If this can be guaranteed, no other form of food for children can, or should, be allowed to take its place.

Dirty milk, of course, is like any other form of impure food - a definite menace. But Certified Grade A Milk, produced under Government supervision and guaranteed absolutely clean, is available practically all over the country and is the dairy-farmer’s answer to the pasturization zealots.

Recent figures published regarding the spread of tuberculosis by milk show, among other facts, that over a period of five years, during which time 70 children belonging to a special organization received a pint of raw milk daily. One case only of the disease occurred. During a similar period when pasteurized milk had been given, 14 cases were reported.

Besides destroying part of the vitamin C contained in raw milk and encouraging growth of harmful bacteria, pasteurization turns the sugar of milk, known as lactose, into beta-lactose - which is far more soluble and therefore more rapidly absorbed in the system, with the result that the child soon becomes hungry again.

Probably pasteurization’s worst offence is that it makes insoluable the major part of the calcium contained in raw milk. This frequently leads to rickets, bad teeth, and nervous troubles, for sufficient calcium content is vital to children; and with the loss of phosphorus also associated with calcium, bone and brain formation suffer serious setbacks.

Pasteurization also destroys 20 percent of the iodine present in raw milk, causes constipation and generally takes from the milk its most vital qualities.

In face of these facts-which are undeniable-what has the Pasteurization Party to say? Instead of compelling dealers to set up expensive machinery for turning raw milk into something that is definitely not what it sets out to be - a nutritious, health giving food - let them pass legislation making the dairy-farmers produce clean, raw milk - that is milk pure to drink with all its constituents unaltered.

The above was published in Magazine Digest - June 1938
Armchair Science is a British Medical Journal




posted on May, 20 2009 @ 02:33 AM
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I like my store bought 2% milk.

Grew up drinking milk straight from the cow and goat. Don't care for it.

It was a great treat when my mom would buy store bought milk.



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 02:48 AM
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I'd like to point out that homogenized just means heated. The milk is heated up enough to kill the bacteria.

Personally I would like to try raw milk. I believe it is healthier because the heat not only kills the bacteria but makes it so that the milk is digested faster. This means a spike in insulin levels, which is harder on the body. The GI index of raw milk should be lower and therefore it should be healthier. I believe the chances of getting sick are minimal.

I should add that from what I've read goat milk is far healthier because the make-up of the nutrients is far closer to human milk than cow milk. I would feel comfortable feeding an infant goat milk formula but not cow milk because it does not contain as good of a mix of nutrition.

Fortunately goat milk is now sold at my local Wal-Mart so I don't have to go far to get it. It takes some getting used to like switching from 2% milk or full milk to skim milk, but unlike switching to skim milk it eventually tastes really good after you accustom yourself to the taste.



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 02:51 AM
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Wow you were so lucky. Your also a good example of someone who has not suffered from drinking straight milk.

The drinking of raw milk experence was unbelievable for me, it brought me back to my ancestral roots and i felt happy for the first time i want to buy my own cow and live on a farm hehe. Drinking store bought milk my whole life and have had mucous problems in my chest, nose and throat.




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posted on May, 20 2009 @ 02:56 AM
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Truthquest i have tried goats milk and definately agree although only health food stores sell non pasteurised goats milk.

The proteins in cows milk are too big to be properly digested in a human tract, so goats milk is smaller and more assimilable.

Homogenised is when the fat that sits on top of the milk is mixed in. Pasteurised means when the milk is heated.



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 03:32 AM
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Grandpap lived until he was 89 years old. This was a time when he should haved died about 67. He died only beause his young bride, heh.
well, she was my old grandmum, but she was young once. And she died.
And so a few months later, Grandpap died. It wasnt from the unpasturiezed or unhomongenized milk that he got from the cows each morning. It was because he was lonely without his life mate.

Drink that good milk. Make butter from it. What the hell, you only go around this life once, and Grandpap did it well, and it wasn't based on fresh milk, it was based on my dear, old. Grandmum. She died and then he died. Both old and comfortable. Like we are all supposed to die. Old and happy. But without the other part? Then if that other part dies, then you go to be with that part.



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 04:07 AM
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Ive had fresh goat milk before, it was put in my coffee when vacationing in southern poland back in 1992.. EWWWWW ti smelled and tasted , just ewwwww
My father used to tel me about milk back in the 1950's and 1960's . It was in a bottle, and it would seperate..top of bottle was like a bubble, wherre the cream would collect, so igf you wanted cream ofr yuor ice cream, ect their it was! Or, you just shake the glass up and drink thick milk, how its supposed to be. Unfortunately, ive never hadc the luxury of trying it. Im a big drinker of milk. Its not the homogenizing of milk, you shuold be worried about, or pasteurizing, its the other medications that have been found in milk. Penecillan and medications that were given to the cows, do pas on into the milk, beofre its extracted from the cow. SO, anyone allegic to penecillain for example, would have to keep that in mind.



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 04:07 AM
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Ive had fresh goat milk before, it was put in my coffee when vacationing in southern poland back in 1992.. EWWWWW ti smelled and tasted , just ewwwww
My father used to tel me about milk back in the 1950's and 1960's . It was in a bottle, and it would seperate..top of bottle was like a bubble, wherre the cream would collect, so igf you wanted cream ofr yuor ice cream, ect their it was! Or, you just shake the glass up and drink thick milk, how its supposed to be. Unfortunately, ive never hadc the luxury of trying it. Im a big drinker of milk. Its not the homogenizing of milk, you shuold be worried about, or pasteurizing, its the other medications that have been found in milk. Penecillan and medications that were given to the cows, do pas on into the milk, beofre its extracted from the cow. SO, anyone allegic to penecillain for example, would have to keep that in mind.



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 05:21 AM
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Ive had goats milk=gross
Ive had milk straight from a cows teet= not bad
Ive had milk from the supermarket= Yummy (especially from chocolate flavoured cows)
Now im going to milk the cat i heard kitten juice is nice.



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 05:42 AM
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I'm firmly of the opinion that humans should not consume milk from a cow or goat or any other animal. I believe that once a human baby is weaned off its mothers milk it should not 'suckle under the udder of a cow'. Every other animal on the planet does not require its mothers milk or any other animals milk once it has grown past the toddler stage. So what makes humans so different? Good marketing thats what!

The reason that cows milk even needs to be pasturised/homogenised, is because 1/30th of it is pus and blood from the host animal.

The brain of a human baby requires a very complex blend of enzymes and proteins to develop properly, that blend is created perfectly in breastmilk. A cows brain on the otherhand does not require the same blend as it is not going to grow into a complex intelligent human and its milk is far less superior.

Once a baby is weaned, all necessary nutrients can be obtained from plant sources, including calcium. In fact, just 6 almonds a day will provide an adult with their total calcium requirement!

www.haelan.co.uk...

The necessity to consume milk and dairy for teeth/bones/development is just another dietary myth. Sure our bodies will adapt quite well to whatever we shove down our throats - to a point - but it is not the perfect food for humans. Neither is meat, but thats another story.

For further reading please look up "Health Wars" by Phillip Day.

Kind regards

Dobbie



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 06:30 AM
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Thanks for the link Dobbie. Was just doing google search and came across www.notmilk.com...
Real eye opening information there.
Many recipes for almond milk in google and i totally agree. Okinawans and hunzas the longest living people get their calcium from leafy dark greens.
But for those who dont want to get off milk maybe raw milk is the better option perhaps.
Almond milk is a dream i love it. But its always expensive to make it.
1 cup almonds
2 tbs agave syrup or raw honey
2 cups water
mix in blender and strain through nut bag sieve. Wella yummy milk. The leftover nuts can be made into biscuits and dehydrated.

I have also seen dairy industry endorsed Got milk campaigns everywhere. On the site they are trying to name a town called Bigg to Got milk. Now this is a mass campaign going on and i wonder for what reason. I know it will make dairy industries alot of money but why dont they tell people that you get sick from too much milk.

This mass milk campaign is reminding me of forced vaccinations. Its keeping the disease industry happy.

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posted on May, 20 2009 @ 07:34 AM
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Thanks for the Almond milk recipe, I wish I had that recipe when my son was going through gastric hell as a toddler. 3 years worth of visits to a gastroenterologist who refused point blank to admit that cows milk was making him sick. He was perfectly healthy on breastmilk before he was weaned. We eventually stopped following the specialists advice, changed his diet and he made a full recovery.



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 07:51 AM
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Your welcome. There are many raw nut milk recipes in google or wathc on youtube if you would like to search them just type "raw almond milk recipes". You can even use medjool dates to sweeten the nut milks. You can make smoothies with the nut milks and all sorts of yummy drinks with it.




A video to get calcium from greens like the hunzas and okinawas.



I posted this one cause this guy reminds me of Mahoney Steve Guttenberg from police academy lol

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posted on May, 21 2009 @ 01:39 AM
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Originally posted by Applesandoranges
Homogenised is when the fat that sits on top of the milk is mixed in. Pasteurised means when the milk is heated.


Oops, you are right! I really need to to refresh my chemistry knowledge again! Its been a while.

Also, one thing I didn't mention in my last posting was that the goat's milk I buy has a much longer expiration date. But I also didn't mention the negative is that it does cost a lot more.



posted on May, 22 2009 @ 09:03 PM
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IMHO, I loved drinking fresh milk barely strained after milking the cow. I was almost never sick as a kid except for occasional virus but amazingly healthy - no sinus problems, etc.

Now, I am on the store bought and I have constant sinus infections, illnesses etc. I noticed that it started when we moved from the country to the city... when I stopped with the fresh milk.

Now, I cannot drink fresh milk but it was the most yummiest taste ever. I would fight the cats for it!

Anyway, my two cents worth - if even worth that.



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