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GPS system 'close to breakdown'

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posted on May, 19 2009 @ 12:12 PM
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GPS system 'close to breakdown'


www.guardian.co.uk

US government officials are concerned that the quality of the Global Positioning System (GPS) could begin to deteriorate as early as next year, resulting in regular blackouts and failures – or even dishing out inaccurate directions to millions of people worldwide.

The satellites are overseen by the US Air Force, which has maintained the GPS network since the early 1990s. According to a study by the US government accountability office (GAO), mismanagement and a lack of investment means that some of the crucial GPS satellites could begin to fail as early as next year.

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posted on May, 19 2009 @ 12:12 PM
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Humm, so our GPS systems could begin to fail starting as early as next year. I hadn't heard about this, but since society in many ways need the GPS system, more so for crucial jobs, and for people being able to find where in the heck of the woods they are, I wonder why they are saying this now, and they haven't tried to fix the system before.

The article goes on to state part of what was given by the According to a study by the US government accountability office (GAO), and I quote:


"It is uncertain whether the Air Force will be able to acquire new satellites in time to maintain current GPS service without interruption," said the report, presented to Congress. "If not, some military operations and some civilian users could be adversely affected."

The report says that Air Force officials have failed to execute the necessary steps to keep the system running smoothly.


This is interesting. So we know the government in general failed to do the necessary steps to keep the system working. Strange no?

www.guardian.co.uk
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posted on May, 19 2009 @ 12:27 PM
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Just shows where priorities are. Billions in bailouts for everybody imaginable. Billions in projects for unions to repay them for getting this president elected. Billions for everything imaginable, but nothing to keep the gps satellites functioning. you've got to wonder.



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 12:29 PM
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I really don't think that GPS is required for anything, we got along just fine without it for thousands of years. Personally, I would enjoy if it did crash as my primary concern is GPS being used to follow people. If one does rely heavily upon it, perhaps they may want to keep a road map in their glove box
. If they government did fail to ensure the system works properly I would question them, as GPS seems to be far more useful for them, ie military operations, than it is for me to navigate around the city.



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 12:35 PM
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No one knows how to use a map anymore?

I love maps, myself. I can sit for hours and hours just looking at maps.

[edit on 19/5/2009 by xxpigxx]



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 12:36 PM
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GPS is hardly essential to life. It's a luxury. Always has been. If some Italians can cross the Atlantic on a little sailboat without I think I can live without it.

It is nice to have on the bike for those centuries though.

In a way it makes me feel good that it's collapsing. One more government money pit down the drain. One more method of Big Brother-esque tracking bye-bye.

Of course government will just use this as an excuse to spend even more on the next thing to prevent this from happening.



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 12:36 PM
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Aren't you being a bit naive. Who's saying this isn't a cover up? That is to get the public off the gps system so it won't overload when [insert any NWO name here] uses it exclusively for mass population tracking
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posted on May, 19 2009 @ 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by searching4truth
I really don't think that GPS is required for anything, we got along just fine without it for thousands of years. Personally, I would enjoy if it did crash as my primary concern is GPS being used to follow people. If one does rely heavily upon it, perhaps they may want to keep a road map in their glove box
. If they government did fail to ensure the system works properly I would question them, as GPS seems to be far more useful for them, ie military operations, than it is for me to navigate around the city.


The ones they use for military operations are most probably not going to fail, and they won't stop trying to follow people. We are talking about the GPS system which we use in our everyday life.

Do you have any idea how many people are saved with GPS?

This will most certainty not affect the GPS used for military operations.



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 12:47 PM
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Originally posted by earlywatcher
Just shows where priorities are. Billions in bailouts for everybody imaginable. Billions in projects for unions to repay them for getting this president elected. Billions for everything imaginable, but nothing to keep the gps satellites functioning. you've got to wonder.


Billions in projects for unions to repay them for getting this president elected...are you trying to imply that this is somehow Obama's fault?

Because if you are, last I checked, it takes years of lack of upkeep to put these systems into a state of disrepair, as such.



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 12:48 PM
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BTW, yes in the article the government is claiming that even our military would suffer from this, but think about how many billions of dolalrs are spent on black budget. The military, and the government in general have back ups.

But you do have to wonder, between having the largest National Guard military deployment in many states history, between the government stating loud and clear that their system for tracking biochemical attacks, and or pandemic disease in NYC is down. Between the government taking over analog TV signals, now the government coming forward and stating that as soon as next year GPS could begin to fail, apart from the bird flu, and some other stuff I am forgetting. I do believe something is really afoot imo.

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posted on May, 19 2009 @ 12:51 PM
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Originally posted by madhatr137
Billions in projects for unions to repay them for getting this president elected...are you trying to imply that this is somehow Obama's fault?

Because if you are, last I checked, it takes years of lack of upkeep to put these systems into a state of disrepair, as such.


Since you are asking about Obama tell me how could he have paid for Harvard on a job making about $12,000 a year? Oh, and of course, how can someone making $12,000 a year can afford to take the trips that Obama took to places like Africa, and Pakistan during the time he was supposedly poor.



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posted on May, 19 2009 @ 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by broli
reply to post by searching4truth
 

That is to get the public off the gps system so it won't overload when [insert any NWO name here] uses it exclusively for mass population tracking
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Well its really doesn't matter how many individuals are using the GPS system (so far as the technology goes)... All the GPS recievers, you know the millions of car sat navs for example are all passive devices... The sats just carry on pumping out the time signals (generated by 3 atomic clocks on each satellite no less!) And the receives simply triangulates a position from that data.

Also if they did not want people to use it they could always flip the switch to turn the encryption back on... When the US airforce originally rolled it out it was encrypted - and my old man says that it took up half of his landrover to have a receiver in it!! and even then it was a grid referance, no fancy digital maps


Any way don't they have stand by birds in orbit? Or have they used them all already?



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
The ones they use for military operations are most probably not going to fail, and they won't stop trying to follow people. We are talking about the GPS system which we use in our everyday life.

Do you have any idea how many people are saved with GPS?

This will most certainty not affect the GPS used for military operations.


The same satellites are used for both civilian and military use.



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 01:11 PM
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Interesting that I just did a search and this is the only thing I could find. How strange that the UK is breaking this and the US news as usual is silent!

Nothing these idiots do surprises me anymore. Now they have thousands of parolees and probationers on gps for supervision, and there could be a breakdown of the system? This gps is used for so many things the average person just doesn't think about, more than tom tom or those other little things in cars.

Don't worry though folks, the printing presses can grind out a few billion more for this, no problem...money is no object in the US....because it is about as real as the money in my kids games!



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 01:13 PM
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I was just thinking of the implications for me if GPS goes down. How would it effect you? Personally, I have come to rely on it too much. I did just fine before GPS, but for at least 9 years I have used it to get everywhere. Even when I rent a car, I only rent one with a nav system. Sometimes, I use GPS to get places I frequent and should know how to get to. It just became so easy to become less involved in where I was going and wait to be told where to turn.

Maybe it is time I stopped using the nav system.



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 01:14 PM
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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

Since you are asking about Obama tell me how could he have paid for Harvard on a job making about $12,000 a year? Oh, and of course, how can someone making $12,000 a year can afford to take the trips that Obama took to places like Africa, and Pakistan during the time he was supposedly poor.



[edit on 19-5-2009 by ElectricUniverse]


The same way I've gone to Leeds University to do a Master's Degree...its called a student loan. I went to Italy too while only on a pittance of a wage...I must have been in league with someone...clearly there were some shady dealings going on there...

What does that have to do with GPS systems falling into disrepair?



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 01:15 PM
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Some technical facts for your arguments:

1. The system uses the same satellites for the military and civilian part of the system so if part of the constellation fails then the military and civilians suffer equally.

2. The system cannot be overloaded by over use from civilians because it is like a radio station that broadcasts the same signal to everyone.

3. Content on ATS is greatly improved by those who research before they babble.



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 01:17 PM
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Originally posted by madhatr137

The same way I've gone to Leeds University to do a Master's Degree...its called a student loan. I went to Italy too while only on a pittance of a wage...I must have been in league with someone...clearly there were some shady dealings going on there...

What does that have to do with GPS systems falling into disrepair?


I am sorry, are you claming that Harvard tuition is the same as the tuition of this "Leeds university" you attended?....


Why didn't you attend Harvard if it is the same as this "Leed university" you attended?...

Oh boy, btw i was responding to what another member was asking....



[edit on 19-5-2009 by ElectricUniverse]



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by dainoyfb
Some technical facts for your arguments:

1. The system uses the same satellites for the military and civilian part of the system so if part of the constellation fails then the military and civilians suffer equally.

2. The system cannot be overloaded by over use from civilians because it is like a radio station that broadcasts the same signal to everyone.

3. Content on ATS is greatly improved by those who research before they babble.


Really, I wonder why there would be black budget for spy satellites if the public can also use them?...
Before you start claiming people are babbling, read your own babbling, and try to figure if it makes sense first.


In case you didn't know there are several spy satellites, which does include GPS, which civilians do not have access to, and these are independent from the known GPS satellites which are used for everyday life and are even used for regular military operations...




[edit on 19-5-2009 by ElectricUniverse]



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 01:24 PM
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One thing I'm certain, there is another reason the government is saying this. When does the government ignore some valuable system?

My guess is that they are about to roll out super secret GPS 10.0 for military only and intend to no long maintain the existing system sometime in the future. There will probably be some enormous funding request to repair the existing system which isn't really broken to fund the new military system.

The government never gives technology to the citizenry until it has something better going on line.



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