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Scientists Unveil Missing Link In Evolution

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posted on May, 20 2009 @ 03:28 AM
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like it has been said before this is the missing link for now. untill a more advanced one is found at an earlier date or that same animal is found at a later date




posted on May, 20 2009 @ 03:37 AM
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AWESOME post. That video was great! "Debunk creationism" and
"Challenge religion itself" carry a lot of weight. Thanks for embedding that.

Not a bad price to pay for such an amazing fossil. A cool 1 Mill.



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 03:42 AM
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quite right plato !! evolution does occur on a minor scale, but the real jumps in species are to do with intelligent design / aliens / gods.
as normal, humans /even scientists, are pendulumic, they emotionally want to be either black or white, but nowhere in between ! stupid people. nearly everything in the world is in the grey-zone of mixed explanations. religions are wrong. darwinists are wrong. the truth is "out there" in the x-files. seriously.



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 04:00 AM
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Im sorry but this is not the missing link.
David attenbourough said himself "This COULD be it"

There is a difference in the word "could" and "is".



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 04:41 AM
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Let's see. Simian DNA has 48 chromosomes and human DNA has 46. So where is that specie with 47 chromosomes -- the link between apes and humans?

That's the missing link and it will never be found, coz chromosomes come in pairs.



Sorry. That's the way it is.

[edit on 5/20/2009 by stander]



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 04:54 AM
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Originally posted by Illuminatus I

You don't have a clue either.

You're just as worthless as Science if you don't have the answers.

... or would you rather just live life with your head in the ground?




Frankly I never claimed I did in relation to Evolution as it is all a bunch of theories & assumptions! You ASSUME Science has the answers but as I stated these Assumptions change whenever they feel or they discover this or that....to suit their own theories......Yes theories...at least that's what they still call them.
You have not got a once of proof....just assumptions.
Discovery of bones and fossils prove nothing except there were Lemur like creatures running around some 47 million years ago.
There are ancient structures under the waters of the West coast of India & Japan. What does science say about these! Not a lot as it will blow there science to smithereens as it could well prove advanced civilizations existed way before our so called advanced civilizations!
I'll have you know I don't live life with my head in the ground.....far from it.....I Seek The Truth from Within and truly do See! You should know better with a pseudonym of Illuminatus.



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 05:47 AM
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I would love it if they now found a skeleton of a 47million year old human



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 06:13 AM
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You know, it never ceases to amaze me, the amount of ignorance on this board. Especially for a site that claims to 'deny ignorance'. It's so frustrating to hear people make such uneducated claims, and then proceed to defend them. None of us know any more than what the article says (which, in itself has it's own spin on it). It's getting borderline ridiculous.

If you don't agree with a post that's supported by experts in the field, then find some information to back up your bold claims. I would invite anyone with a PhD in human evolution archaeology, with supporting research papers, to comment your little heart out.

Sorry, I'm just getting tired of listening to ignorance, misinformation, and disinformation on a site that presents itself as an alternative news source.

//end rant



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 07:28 AM
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beware the mighty lemur. beware its tail and fangs. it will steal food from children and urinate on your windows [whilst on safari,naturally].



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 07:39 AM
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Originally posted by stander
Let's see. Simian DNA has 48 chromosomes and human DNA has 46. So where is that specie with 47 chromosomes -- the link between apes and humans?

That's the missing link and it will never be found, coz chromosomes come in pairs.



Sorry. That's the way it is.

[edit on 5/20/2009 by stander]


Stander, it has been shown that humans have a fused chromosome which accounts for the lack of a chromosome pair.

en.wikipedia.org...(human)


The correspondence of chromosome 2 to two ape chromosomes. The closest human relative, the bonobo, has near-identical DNA sequences to human chromosome 2, but they are found in two separate chromosomes. The same is true of the more distant gorilla and orangutan.




[edit on 20-5-2009 by ExistenceUnknown]



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by Avarus
You know, it never ceases to amaze me, the amount of ignorance on this board. Especially for a site that claims to 'deny ignorance'. It's so frustrating to hear people make such uneducated claims, and then proceed to defend them. None of us know any more than what the article says (which, in itself has it's own spin on it). It's getting borderline ridiculous.

If you don't agree with a post that's supported by experts in the field, then find some information to back up your bold claims. I would invite anyone with a PhD in human evolution archaeology, with supporting research papers, to comment your little heart out.

Sorry, I'm just getting tired of listening to ignorance, misinformation, and disinformation on a site that presents itself as an alternative news source.

//end rant


Quoted for absolute truth.

Honestly the worlds leading paleontologists mark this find as extraordinary and to them it solidifies the theory of evolution.

But what do you see the retractors do, the exact same thing they always do, they make fun of it, joke about it, and call those scientists dumb. A kind of nose in the air stuck up attitude that somehow we are all morons and they are right, no matter the evidence.

Here is fossilized absolute proof about our ancestry right in front of their chevy chase and they still say "no we were put here in one swell swoop by God or Alien overlords".

It's called ignorance and unfortunately its dense as hell in some people.



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by ExistenceUnknown

Originally posted by stander
Let's see. Simian DNA has 48 chromosomes and human DNA has 46. So where is that specie with 47 chromosomes -- the link between apes and humans?

That's the missing link and it will never be found, coz chromosomes come in pairs.



Sorry. That's the way it is.

[edit on 5/20/2009 by stander]


Stander, it has been shown that humans have a fused chromosome which accounts for the lack of a chromosome pair.

en.wikipedia.org...(human)


The correspondence of chromosome 2 to two ape chromosomes. The closest human relative, the bonobo, has near-identical DNA sequences to human chromosome 2, but they are found in two separate chromosomes. The same is true of the more distant gorilla and orangutan.

[edit on 20-5-2009 by ExistenceUnknown]

Well, that only supports the idea that there my be no "natural" link between the transition of apes to humans. Chomosome 2 was "fused" way too quickly -- it is a leading cause of cancer in humans. Morover, there is a complete void that explains the mechnism responsible for the chromosomal fusion. If I arrive to London in a plane from Glasgow, that doesn't mean that I live in Glasgow.

New species do not emerge through breeding; their genetic makeup in the sex cell changes due to random changes that affect genetic inheritance. However, rapid emergence of new species is attributed to cosmic radiation capable of modifying sex cell DNA in more profound manner. This cosmic radiation is random, but for some reason has led to the emergence of more and more sophisticated species on this planet leading to Homo sapiens. In other words, Nature knew what it was doing. How can anyone be so ignorant not to look at other options regarding the source of the radiation? We live in the universe that is said to be 15 billion years old. Just give me some 2000 years in focused genetic research and I turn crocodile into a dog by radiating the environment where crocodiles live. There is no sound argument that disproves the possibility of someone finding this planet and using the primitive life here for accelerated evolutionary experiments.

Until then, science can join the clergy: "Well, Nature works mysterious ways." But that's sort of natural explantion: we do come from apes and it shows -- unfortunately. It will take some time to break this link through tech modification of human DNA by us.







[edit on 5/20/2009 by stander]



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by stander
Well, that only supports the idea that there my be no "natural" link between the transition of apes to humans.


Actually to me it says that at one point humans branched off from apes.


Originally posted by stander
Chomosome 2 was "fused" way too quickly...


Where did you get this information? I've never heard of anyone speculating that it was fused too quickly. Even if it did magically fuse one day what relevance is it that it was a quick fusing?


Originally posted by stander
It is a leading cause of cancer in humans.


It is also thought to be what sperates us intellectually from the apes.


Originally posted by stander
Morover, there is a complete void that explains the mechnism responsible for the chromosomal fusion.


The means of fusion, while important, is not as important as the fact that it did indeed fuse and puts to rest the question of the extra chromosomes found in apes.


Originally posted by stander
There is no sound argument that disproves the possibility of someone finding this planet and using the primitive life here for accelerated evolutionary experiments.


Of course there is nothing that disproves that theory. We only take what we can observe and come to a conclusion about things. The simple fact is we just don't know how life began and for what reason. But that is not something that evolution seeks to reveal. Abiogenisis is the field of study concerning how life came to be.





[edit on 5/20/2009 by stander]



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 10:14 AM
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Just end the debate

read this

Darwinius masillae - The 47 Million year old Lemur - Story Update



"Discovered two years ago, the exquisitely preserved specimen is not a direct ancestor of monkeys and humans, but hints at what such an ancestor might have looked like.

www.abovetopsecret.com...




posted on May, 20 2009 @ 10:29 AM
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Until you can provide evidence for creationism or alien involvement, it is difficult to be taken seriously. With all due respect (I am trying to be diplomatic and candid as possible) the world's leading palaeontologists know more about the human evolution than internet users.

However, this find represents the de-evolution of the human race when society is too busy observing reality television than understanding a significant scientific find


The arduous experience of trying to get the attention of humans, without mentioning"celebrities", to understand science is a sad reflection on us *shakes head*

Even more sad that certain States in America have prevented the teaching of evolution.

Darwin is turning in his grave.

[edit on 20-5-2009 by infinite]



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 10:38 AM
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I believe this has already been debunked. Sorry guys
It's the way things were created (No pun intended)



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by HolydarknessVA
The bible beaters and anyone else who refuses to belive that we have evolved will be on this thread like white on rice.


As for me, I know this will pan out and prove that the human species has evolved and will contuie to evolve for millions of years to come


The absolute ignorance of this statement is mind boggling.
No where in the bible does it ever say how we were created or what we looked like. Christians who claim we were born 7000 years ago, and thats when time began, are total extremist weird-o's and don't speak for the rest of us.

To hold them against all of Christianity is a total cop-out.

Also, saying "finding proof of evolution disproves God's existence"

No it doesn't. This must be the dumbest statement of all time...show me where in the bible it would say something that would make that statement true?

As far as the God argument goes, God created human beings "in his own image"

Since God is not a human being, ....instead God is a spirit, then what the bible says is that what makes each of you who you are, is your spirit, then your SPIRIT is you, and your spirit resides in your body.

Never said anything to disprove the theory that we call evolution.

Personally, i believe what we call "science", God calls "my work".

It's always too easy for an atheist to jump on this kind of bandwagon. If they'd shut up, for just one minute to think about the ignorance they are spewing as they scream in the crowd trying to be louder than everyone, then they would realize that they are no better than the extremist christians they are trying to denounce.

"Open your mind" "Don't be a sheeple", etc etc.

"Open your mind" goes both ways. Don't be so quick to make a decision when you've refused to take all arguments into consideration.

[edit on 20-5-2009 by Fremd]



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 11:36 AM
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Does anyone know if they have done any DNA testing of the bone material to determine if there is common DNA shared between Humans and Ida?

One other question as I'm not an archaeologist nor do I study evolution, but what are the requirements that need to be met in order for a fossil to be classified as the missing link?

[edit on 20-5-2009 by Swing Dangler]



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 11:37 AM
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Now they're saying it looks more like a cat. I'll go one better... It's some kind of magical mogwai like in the old gremlin movie except when this one gets wet it magically creates every other mammal out of little pods that pop out of the skin.

Evolution is just the biggest bunch of pseudo goofy non scientific crap the world has ever tried to pull on people. At least mythology and religion won't try to pass beliefs or theory off as scientific fact.

I'm with the we don't know how we got here crowed on this one but one thing I do know for sure is that if you leave a can of Dr. Pepper sitting on a table long enough, it's not going to magically turn into a pack of Marlboro's.

One more time - Pure BS ~



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 12:06 PM
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Originally posted by Haydn_17
I would love it if they now found a skeleton of a 47million year old human


Well they have come close but it gets thrown out because it pisses evolutionists and the religious off.

A hammer with a petrified handle in a rock.


this is a fossil of a human like finger with nail.


Flint(silex)were developed during the Cretaceous period 65-140 million years ago.(according to the evolution therory) One convincing sign that the head is not man-made is that the head is distorted and that could only have happend while the flint emerged and were soft and formable.



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