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Calls to ban the "insanity" of brutal cage fighting in Germany

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posted on May, 19 2009 @ 02:38 AM
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The Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) is coming to Germany - and the brutal cage fighting has already sparked outrage.

Lanxess Arena in Cologne will host the event on June 13th in Cologne and 6,000 tickets have been sold so far.

But some are not happy with the lack of an age limit for the tickets.

Anything goes in the UFC, which has similar rules to the brawling in hit film ‘Fight Club’ - stamping, punching, choking and throwing are allowed, only biting and eye-gouging is forbidden.

So should kids really be allowed to watch?

“To make money out of youngsters for the glorification of violence is sick,” Armin Laschet, the youth minister of North Rhine-Westphalia, told the ‘Frankfurter Allgemeinen Sonntagszeitung’ (FAS).

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So, the US wants to introduce "cage fights" to my fellow peace-loving germans? No way! Germany will soon ban this sport and will not allow it as entertainment. These modern Colosseum fights, where the public gets desensitized to blood and gore, where fighters and audience become cocks and male domination is applauded - things like this belong to a world that is alien to german taste. We simply do not enjoy it - it is ancient and ugly.
Sure we do watch brutal hollywood productions and we play bloody computer games, but that's fiction and no one gets hurt in reality.

Cage fights crosses the border between amusement and bad taste. But unlike other germans who call for banning these kind of sports, i do not think that it is the duty of the government to decide for the people what they choose. Instead, it is the people's responsibility to decide for themselves.

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posted on May, 19 2009 @ 02:45 AM
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You do know that some of the best UFC fighters have been from Europe right?

It really isn't as barbaric as its made out to be. Granted there are a few bloody fights, but most of the time it isn't any bloodier than a boxing match.

You might want to watch it. Its alot more entertaining then boxing.



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 02:58 AM
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You must be joking



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 03:00 AM
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I watch UFC, heck I have even payed for PPV's. I can't see what their problem is when most fights are only viewable by payment/or viewed live (in person)!

Besides, as you have just shown, kids can easily access fights via Youtube. God only knows what else they can access!

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posted on May, 19 2009 @ 03:06 AM
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UFC is statistically no more dangerous than Pro Boxing, Rugby or American Footbal in terms of injuries.

It's even been proposed that the lighter UFC gloves are less likely to cuasde brain damage than the heavier boxing gloves as the weight of the punch isnt spread on the skull as much.

Fact of the matter is that humans have been sparing in one form or another (in historical times to the death) for ever and like minded individuals should have the right to fight each other in whatever way they see fit; it's their brains/, limbs etc afterall.....



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 03:21 AM
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Originally posted by Jukiodone
UFC is statistically no more dangerous than Pro Boxing, Rugby or American Footbal in terms of injuries.


Maybe. But it has the aesthetics of street fights. You don't watch these either, you get sick in the stomach and call the police.

In sports, there are rules and it is clear to everyone, that the goal is an abstract competition. It's not about simple dominance or who can hurt the other most badly. It's about skill and respect.



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 03:31 AM
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Lets face it, it just LOOKs more brutal than it really is. And that just sums it up...



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 03:32 AM
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That vid you posted is not from UFC. I am a big fan of UFC, and most of the fights are not that violent. Most of the guys have training in MMA, and have years of training behind them. The fighting you are thinking about is more akin to street fighting.

UFC have rules, and sensible rules to minimise serious damage....exactly the same as boxing.



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 03:37 AM
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Yeah, well I agree, we cant just point the finger at the UFC. The UFC referees would have broken it up a lot earlier.

There are other brands such as EliteXC that also run the MMA sport.

Also remember, cage fighting is basically Thai Kickboxing (Muay Thai) in a Cage and not a ring!



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 03:41 AM
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That is not a video of a UFC cage match but something else.UFC is pretty tame compared to some. Also, while the UFC may have never been to germany, i doubt that they don't have other types of "cage fighting".



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 03:42 AM
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I don't see what all the fuss is about. The UFC is actually alot safer than boxing. There is an average of about 4 deaths a year in boxing. Guess how many the UFC has? Yea, 0.



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 04:01 AM
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You're right, it's not that chaotic and senseless mutilation as i thought at first. Nevertheless, they break some basic rules of a fair fight, like hitting in the face when the opponent is down. So, it is not a fair competition that gives two guys the opportunity to show who is the best. They simply behave violent, and that is ugly. And that's why germans won't tolerate it and they are right



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posted on May, 19 2009 @ 04:01 AM
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I totally agree!



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 04:09 AM
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The Germans won't stand for it, but they are buying the tickets... Nobody has the Germans in a triangle here.... it is a PPV event. Cage fighting is international last time I checked, so what makes the Germans morally superior?



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 04:11 AM
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Before anything like UFC get banned or any other contact sport,why arnt we banning war?

Banning these sports only takes away the few outlets left for men and woman to experience, release,and or learn to control the basic violent instincts that are present in almost every human being.

Its like people banning porn claiming it will reduce rapes


As you can tell i dont agree with banning these things.
Making them age restricted im all for.



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 04:22 AM
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The UFC is more sport and more fair than boxing and if you watched it enough and understood the rules you would see that.

It's about domination and not always the strongest and most brutal fighter wins. Sometimes just better prepared or more skilled fighter wins, but unlike boxing and other sports a bad or weak fighter cannot survive.

Yes, it is brutal & like street fighting if you lose it once you might be toast, but that's reality in our world and it's not fake like many boxing matches.



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 04:24 AM
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There is already an age restriction for the fight in cologne.

Nothing makes germans morally superior. Only if they do not buy the tickets due to moral feelings, it shows that they do not like violence. Eventually that would also mean, that we will not support any violence, be it wars or police brutality or whatever.

When people are weary of wars, they eventualy choose peace.



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 04:26 AM
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Originally posted by verylowfrequency

Yes, it is brutal & like street fighting if you lose it once you might be toast, but that's reality in our world


I hope that's not for long. I hope the world changes and people don't support anymore any more violence - in any forms

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posted on May, 19 2009 @ 04:29 AM
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How these things are not banned in this society is a joke, beyond words. This and boxing should be banned, no matter what anyone says.



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 04:32 AM
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It's not the duty of the government to decide for people. They have free will and democracy. But when they choose out of their own free will peace, peace might become a lasting condition. However evil the politician may be then, there will be no support for any wars.

Me, i personly think of this as a process towards maturity.




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