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Rendezvous points for ATS members: Is an Underground Railroad Possible?

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posted on May, 19 2009 @ 01:17 AM
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I don't think I can make it out of town with any weapons when the SHTF. I'm surrounded by Law enforcement centers and Train tracks can easily cut off main routes if TPTB noticed several cars on the back routes of Georgia trying to escape.

So I'm lucky if I could make it out of here alive with a BBQ sandwich. That being said is there a way possible to exit Security Checkpoints in America and have a weapon planted and ready on the other side?

If not..then how about a network of Underground Railroads, sort of like what the Southern Slaves had..

I just got the feeling that maybe I won't be able to stay in my home when it all goes down....




posted on May, 19 2009 @ 01:20 AM
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Underground railway is possible, but not that probable.

I've always thought of when the SHTF, what would ATS do, if there was an ATS plan, probably there is, but I need 5000 points to see that thread....grrr.



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 01:22 AM
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Ohhh, Thanks Republican

I thought maybe it had slipped the minds of our brightest Survivalist. Even if we can't get into a Secret ATS spot we still need to be aware of these upcoming Security Checkpoints. I'm sure there will be many.

The interstate is always under construction lately in my city. That's not good.



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 01:26 AM
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I'm in Texas, and others i'm sure are in Seatle, NYC, the UK, Australia, and other locations, i'm sure if we bucked heads enough we could come up with prime locations to meet up, since we are 'THE Greatest" minds for conspiracies, and, well, it'd be weird meeting each other especially when the SHTF!

Surely theres one spot in the USA that is good for american ATSers to meet at?!

Surely. I will star and flag in hopes of reaching a conclusion to your important post!



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 01:27 AM
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well you can always plant a weapon outside of where a checkpoint would be...but the risk of it being found (especially a gun and ammo) is kind of a strong deterrent.

www.mossberg.com...

that is something i see at gun shows a lot and something along those lines would be useful for storing stuff outside.

ps i am not endorsing that or advertising it. i dont want to get banned for trying to be a salesman. i just cant really explain it better than that link can.



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 01:33 AM
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An underground railroad is not only possible it's probable. There would be a necessity to transport people and we all know what necessity is the mother of.

This is one of those things that probably should not be discussed on a discussion board. Not in any real detail.

Suffice to say no mater what people can move on their own and there are more of us than there are of them.



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 01:54 AM
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In Brisbane Australia we have to meet in one of those underground tunnels that the Cave Clans go to like in this link: www.youtube.com...

One of those, maybe I'll do a bit of exploring of my own and see where we can meet underground, I'm think that would be a good place, because they all lead to the ocean, so we have a boat waiting for us there?



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 01:58 AM
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ok, I actually found a map where I think the entrance is for the tunnel in Brisbane
brisbane.gumtree.com.au...

I'd say is where the red pointer is, but thinking if there is martial law or something, this is almost right in the middle of the city, so expect lots of activity I reckon.



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 09:49 AM
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Thanks Everyone,


The Interstate Project in my town has decided to install actual STOP Signs on the OFF/ON Ramps where there used to be Yield Signs. Cameras are capturing your license plates if you get too close to a Red Light.. and those Flat Screen TVs are popping up all over the place. TPTB aren't making it easy to escape.

I believe the Sea is a great idea too
, if I could make it through South Carolina with a Yacht, that would be Awesome. Probably not going to happen though the Atlantic is too far away...

The Best way I see getting out of here alive is by having a fierce "Network" established. I'll call it a Web of Hope..



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 10:51 AM
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Just for context...

The "Underground Railroad" is a term for a network of safe houses used during the Civil War in the US for slaves to escape and travel north where they would be safer.

It wasn't underground, and it wasn't a railroad.

Now, as far as a modern day version, I think we are seeing it here and on other forums. We have formed a "Mutual Assistance Group" in my community among trusted friends from all walks of life.

We are making preparations in a prudent fashion for SHTF, but it's mostly just getting to know each other and sharing knowledge and skills.

I suspect there are groups like this all over the country forming. The problem is that you need to stay off the "radar".

Communications should be word of mouth as much as possible. Formal plans, meetings, documents could be used against you. (this is FAR FETCHED but entirely possible).

Building communities is great even if the S doesn't HTF. That's the problem with our world -- we feel more comfortable talking to folks in bits and bytes than just going next door to strike up a conversation with our neighbors.



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 10:52 AM
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I love it!

"Fierce Network"

and

"Web of Hope"

Those are awesome terms.

Also, why does everyone always want to go in tunnels/caves or run to the mountains in SITX? Let's load up our coolers and ammo and head for the BEACH!



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 11:01 AM
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Let's all meet at Denver International Airport!



Seriously, if you're concerned about avoiding security checkpoints, perhaps you should consider ways to not have to avoid security checkpoints. Or, better yet, let's all work to avoid the possibility of such things, making it quite clear that we don't want and will not accept our country being turned into a 'nightmare state'.

I guess it depends on how the 'SHTF', in whatever scenario you're predicting.



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 11:07 AM
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Maybe instead of the S hitting the F, we should be the F shredding the S!

I dunno.

It sounded funny for a minute.



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 11:08 AM
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I really don't think the government has the manpower to man every checkpoint so I wouldn't worry about getting past checkpoints. Also, if SHTF, I wonder how many of those people manning checkpoints would pick their job over their family's well being. If Katrina is of any indication, I think they would choose the latter.



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 03:34 PM
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You got that right.

After 9/11 and Katrina none of the medics or nurses I work with (with families) would even "consider" going to work if the SHTF.

Hell most of the cops I know are as patriotic as the next guy and they don't like the idea of checkpoints either.

Even members of the military have the right to refuse an order if they believe it to be illegal. (I know it's a LOT more complicated than that, just saying)

The whole NWO concept only works if you have the muscle to pull it off and that means boots on the ground that are motivated to carry out political will.

Sure the civvies have the keys to the nukes, but killing the population and ruining the national resources really defeats the point of getting off on controlling people.

It may work for the short term but I personally think we are reaching critical mass on the liberty front. Even a year ago only the hardcore folks were thinking about SHTF, but now it's becoming more "normal" and "accepted".

I think people are paying attention. We need a lot more of them to pay attention but people are watching.



posted on May, 19 2009 @ 10:19 PM
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Personally, I don't think I would want to meet up with many of the people on these ATS survival boards in a survival situation.

First off, there have been some posters here that have said they will kill fellow humans, eat them, and steal their gear... basically whatever it takes for them to survive.

Also, many people here have posted what survival equipment they own and what survival tactics they will use. They have basically alerted "the enemy" as to their strength and tactics... something you never want to do in a survival situation.

I think that survival will be easier in very small groups than in large groups, especially if we are hiding from the government or some other enemy. In the case of natural disaster though, groups may be helpful if we need to reestablish farming.



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 06:32 PM
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Hmmm.... I pondered over you post and the following posts for quite a while.

Being that ATS and this survival forum is a world wide phenomenon,It would be possible to find a few people in your area.

Just like in real life there are some you would like to know and others you would want to avoid.

I would suggest you find like minded friends and family locally and discuss your concerns with them.

Wandering around when TSHTF with an ATS hat on could be both a blessing and curse.


[edit on 20-5-2009 by The Utopian Penguin]



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 06:59 PM
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Thank You T.U.Penguin
,

I'm actually in a very Unique situation. The Savannah is to my East and the Mississippi is to my West. So can I flow down stream? Landing in the Gulf of Mexico or Atlantic with Groceries, Weapons, and Family? Probably not , I wouldn't last 3 hours on an open boat with my relatives


I did notice my Local News Station reporting on Bridge corrosion.. Would they blow the bridges out? It's likely, they're the main exits for my city.

So I see myself walking out of town with supplies and I wouldn't want to be weighed down with weapons at a Checkpoint.

A friend across the bridge would be welcome.



posted on May, 22 2009 @ 01:44 AM
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I would think it best to make plans with a small "team" in your area and then depending on the scenario you can make a better judgement call when the time comes.



posted on May, 22 2009 @ 03:08 PM
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That's what I have in mind,

I can't kid myself and say I will be able to stay home and tend to the yard when TSHTF. The Corps of Engineers controls the dam a few miles up river and they've been known to release extra water or allow the river to descend. ... in either case I find it difficult to cross the bridge uptown. so I have to be ready to leave in a short notice..so what to do? My best guess was to get to a safe house and pick up supplies.

No human has to be there, it could be an old shed or refueling station. Just something to rely on when I'm out of time and goods. ..but still on the run



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