reply to post by lucidclouds
Not to mention, he signed presidential determination 95-45.
The families and widows of the men that died at Area51 because of blatant negligence and disregard for the law were never given closure. These were
fathers and husbands who all died because the military decided to burn off stealth byproducts (illegally) instead of trucking them off and gaining
attention to the base. Yet, the government didn't have to release any documentation involving the deceased men because of Clinton's presidential
determination in the case.
To this day, the defense attornies involved in that case have to have postings on their office doors saying they can't allow anyone in their offices
(I'm guessing to prevent anyone from seeing any of the court documents). But they dont' even have anything government or military related because
of the presidential determination. What the heck is going on here?
Exactly how many people have died there? We have no way of knowing!
The only reason this one case went to court is because multiple people died at once due to the very same exposure to toxic chemicals. And even then
it only happened because the spouses decided to, basically, join forces against the government. But even then, it was a brick wall of government
secrecy. Does this sound familiar??!
Meanwhile, we keep hearing the same disinformation from magazines like Popular Mechanics about how the base has been abandoned, it's a ghost town,
etc..etc.. Yet the satellite photos, alone, prove that efforts have been ramped up and that this has been going on for years. The infamous
government "janet" terminal at McCarren Airport still fly at least 2 airliners to and from the base every day.
Then there was another recent article in Popular Mechanics just a couple months ago (good thread on ATS right now on this actually) about how there
isn't any evidence of UFO's. They basically constructed a magazine article that focused on some of the worst video examples of supposed UFO
activity, claimed to debunk them, then they basically just smeared all the astronauts that have come forward saying that UFO's are real by attacking
their character. You can't just pick and chose how you debunk the UFO phenomenon and then ignore everything else that contradicts you.
And I really hate how people come on ATS saying "prove to me it is real". As if anything anyone sais is ever going to convince anyone. You either
believe it or you don't. This is the kind of thing you have to decide for yourself. All the supporting evidence is going to be there regardless of
who presents it who.
Do the research, look at the more well-documented cases, the government documents, the government secrecy and refusals to respond to FOIA requests
involving UFO's, the sometimes admitted lies from the military and the government, project blue book, the abduction phenomenon, the physical evidence
(which DOES exist btw) including artifacts, implants and residue, the NASA connection, the NASA videos, the astronauts, pilots, military personnel,
law enforcement personnel, and everyone who has ever come forward with credibility who has ever witnessed and/or recorded proof of their UFO
experiences.
You can't just look at a video and ever be convinced if you are really looking for real and honest proof of the UFO phenomenon. It is a conglomerate
of all this supporting evidence that proves, at least, that we aren't being told the whole truth, something is going on beyond our current
understanding, and that UFO's are real regardless of what they really are and where they're from.
-ChriS
