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Topic started on 18-5-2009 @ 04:33 PM by karl 12
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Radio interview with Graham Hancock author of Supernatural who
makes some very interesting points about human origin:
The evolution of modern humans has taken more than five million years but until less than 50,000 years ago we had no art, no religion, no
sophisticated symbolism, no creative and innovative thinking, and quite possibly no language. Then, a dramatic and electrifying change overtook our
ancestors in every part of the globe, and all the skills and qualities that we value most highly in ourselves today appeared suddenly, already fully
formed, as though bestowed on us by hidden powers. Scientists describe this change as “the greatest riddle in human history”.
The first art of mankind, in the painted caves and rock-shelters of southwest Europe and South Africa, dates back to the time of the great change. Why
do these ancient paintings, tens of thousands of years old, depict beings of a kind that are never found in nature – strange and eerie hybrids with
the heads of animals and the bodies of humans?
In the depths of the Amazon rainforest tribal shamans drink a powerful hallucinogenic brew called Ayahuasca (“the vine of souls”) in order to
induce visions. When they return to normal consciousness, after experiencing what they believe is out-of-body travel in the spirit world, they make
paintings of the “intelligent beings” they have encountered. Why are many of these beings also depicted as uncanny hybrids with the heads of
animals or serpents and the bodies of humans? And why do the shamans say that they have taught them everything they know about how to live in the
jungle, and about the medicinal value of rainforest plants?
www.grahamhancock.com...
Interview.
Part One:
www.youtube.com...
Part Two:
www.youtube.com...
Part Three:
www.youtube.com...
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reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 04:40 PM by dooper
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Graham goes a bit farther back.
I was always troubled as to how a primitive, agrarian society in the Nile area almost overnight transformed into a culture of advanced engineering,
art, and astronomy. With two languages!
Normally, you can see things advance and change. Look at the Wright brothers aircraft of 1909, and see the changes and advances in 1919, 1929, 1939,
1949, and so on.
With this Egyptian culture, we don't see these incremental advances.
We see a culture full-blown show up. And they could do things we can't duplicated today.
Odd.
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reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 05:00 PM by Amaterasu
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Having read The Terra Papers (linked in my sig), I can say that we were both taught by ETs as well as genetically engineered.
The reason for the "sudden" Egyptian culture is explained there as a mass mind-wipe that was done, removing written history to reflect only the
existence of Ra as a god, and other such things.
So... Since I believe that the Papers are the closest we have to our true history, all of these things make sense to me.
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reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 05:10 PM by dooper
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Oddly, while the Egyptians excelled in some areas, their knowledge of medicine was abominable.
Highly skewered society.
Like some had been left in Egypt, and others who excelled in other disciplines were dropped off in other areas.
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reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 05:31 PM by Nohup
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It took a little longer than just overnight for this to happen, and it generally had to do with mankind being faced with the incredible hardships of
fluctuating ice ages. We either had to get smart or die, and we were fortunate enough to have at that time a few hominids around that were like super
Einstein-level geniuses compared to the rest of the shaggy bunch of cavemen, and they lived. Lucky for us.
Anyway, in a very stressed environment, it doesn't take long for a species to undergo significant evolutionary changes. And in this case, once we
had the brain power in place to create more sophisticated language and organized cities and agriculture, the rest was pretty much inevitable. Even
though it still took us 40,000 years to get it all together.
No aliens needed. And if they were around, they didn't apparently help us as much as they could have, if they were really interested. Cluing some
cultures in on little things like the wheel would have been a big help.
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reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 07:36 PM by Paveway27
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reply posted on 19-5-2009 @ 01:06 AM by Amaterasu
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Originally posted by Nohup
No aliens needed. And if they were around, they didn't apparently help us as much as they could have, if they were really interested. Cluing some
cultures in on little things like the wheel would have been a big help.
Given:
1. all the anomalous relics
2. the Sumerian Tablets (which accord with the Papers)
3. the Egyptian society seemingly arising at their pinnacle
4. the fact that there is one animal on this planet that inbreeding creates issues in offspring in as little as the next generation - and a high
likelihood of issues in two generations (ALL other animals must be inbred for MANY generations before issues show up, and in some (leopards, for
example) there never is any issue with inbreeding)...
Leaves me to give the likelihood that aliens were here before us, genetically messed with us, were overthrown as the Papers say by renegade
individuals from Orion and underground genetic creations...at 98%. This also explains:
5. the "royalty" on this planet maintaining a bloodline.
You may believe as you wish about aliens, but I am certain they are here and amongst us. As well as in the skies above us.
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reply posted on 19-5-2009 @ 08:14 AM by Supercertari
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A slight problem with Mr Hancock's opening gambit:
The evolution of modern humans has taken more than five million years but until less than 50,000 years ago we had no art, no religion, no
sophisticated symbolism, no creative and innovative thinking, and quite possibly no language.
is the Qafzeh Cave finds in Israel, dating to approximately 100,000 years ago a number of burials involving ritual staining with ochre have been
found.
BBC News, December 2003
The Free Library
I've always found this particular find intriguing as it dates ritual behaviour right back to the earliest appearances of modern humans. One of the
skeletons is a 20 year old male buried with a small child.
The Skhul cave, on Mount Carmel Israel, dated to roughly the same time was were flint tools and pierced shells probably used in jewellry were
found.
BBC News, June 2006
Of course the fact that the Skhul Cave is on Mount Carmel and the Qafzeh Cave is 2.5km away from Nazareth, in Israel cheers me up some for other
reasons too.
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reply posted on 19-5-2009 @ 08:31 AM by JohnnyCanuck
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Originally posted by dooper
I was always troubled as to how a primitive, agrarian society in the Nile area almost overnight transformed into a culture of advanced engineering,
art, and astronomy. Normally, you can see things advance and change. Look at the Wright brothers aircraft of 1909, and see the changes and advances
in 1919, 1929, 1939, 1949, and so on. With this Egyptian culture, we don't see these incremental advances.
Just a quick note to say that if we consider Pharonic Egypt, for instance, that starts about 3000 BC, right? In discussing flight, you speak of 10
year increments over 40 years. That level of change is regarded as instantaneous when viewed through a filter of 5000 years. You'd be hard pressed to
single out a century that far back.
And as you see with flight...how long did it take Man to learn how to fly? Then it took 60 years to get to the moon. That's overnight, in the grand
scheme of things.
When you come up with a good idea, like farming...news travels quick. And a reliable food source is the first building block of more advanced society.
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reply posted on 19-5-2009 @ 08:35 AM by warrenb
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reply to post by karl 12
Graham is a great author. I enjoyed his other books, Underworld and Fingerprints of the Gods, as well.
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