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Originally posted by WickettheRabbit
reply to post by KarlG
Do you believe the collective thought of humans created a God-type figure? Why would it be hard to believe for you then that God-type entity could create humans?
I don't get the logic.
Originally posted by hounddoghowlie
i had biology class all through high school,and i learned all about evolution
single cell organisms, plant life , animal life and yes the dinosaurs. we learned about how all the different systems work in many forms of life.
and you know that the teachers couldnt tell me how all the single cell life forms decided how they were gonna be a fish,tree,flower, blade of grass, dog ,cat ,snake, and you know if we want to jump on the way back machine, even the dinos. they couldnt tell me how all the right elements came togather to make air, water, gasses, sand, drit, rocks and the list can go on and on.
you know all the big bangers that think all that is came about by a couple of atoms smashing togather, and what it produced just kinda happ hazzardly came togather over billions of years and made all that we can see ,feel, smell, and taste,here on earth or in the universe. i just cant understand why they cant see there was a design to it all.
so if you want to keep on using the big banger logic, not open your eyes and see what is as plain as day,that life the earth, the universe and im sure things we cant see are far to complex to have just happ hazzardly happened. i will pray for you, just like i pray for others here that seem to be fighting the truth.
Originally posted by KarlG
---Science is random. You mentioned the HADRON collider, which tried to recreate the Big Bang, which so far hasn't succeeded. Why? Perhaps they haven't found the right mixture of components yet to recreate the explosion. Why is Earth "in the Goldilocks Zone", with the right proportion of oxygen, nitrogen, water and heat? Because it is. Of all the lucky planets in our solar system, we just happen to have gotten the right distance from the sun TRILLIONS OF YEARS AGO (which is a long time for ANY probability to happen).
Now I presume you don't believe in aliens, since God only created humans in the Bible. But I believe in their existence. They are out there. And some of them, they got lucky too. The amount of time is long enough for ANYTHING to happen. How did time come about? How did singularity come about? Well, more research. More science.
You don't have to pray for me. I am not afraid of death. I am not afraid of going to your so-called Heaven or Hell. As long as I have lived my life well, I have nothing to fear from anything elsewhere. Even if I DO have something to fear - well, by all means, BRING IT ON and let's see who comes out on tops.---
Originally posted by LambLion58
reply to post by stereovoyaged
I am relatively new here but this thread caught my eye. I would just like to say that it is historical fact that Yeshua Jesus rose from the dead. Check out 1Corinthians chapter 15 the whole chapter is excellant. It is also historical fact that the Apostle Paul exsisted and the other Apostles as well. Check out the writings of Josephus.
2ndly as far as Jesus walking through walls, its called folding time and space. There is a book I would like to recommend by an Astrophysicist whose name is Dr. Hugh Ross and it is called the Thumbprint of G-d. You can most likely find it on Amazon.com. Too many people are so willing to throw the baby out with the bath water because things that need to be taken by faith are only thought through with the head and mind. It says in 1Corinthians that G-d choose what is foolish in mans eyes to confound the wise. Just some ponderings, and musings.
Originally posted by DragonriderGal
reply to post by KarlG
And of course, I see the bible as a book written specifically with the control of humanity (especially western civilization) in mind. A good slave doesn't formulate revolution, and get into stuff and in general make things difficult for it's owner by resisting being abused and trying to escape and such.
So one of the primary focuses of the bible is to make humans feel guilty and ashamed if they use anger or act disobedient or what not. Spinning, spinning. You know, that 'turn the other cheek or your anger will take you to hell' thing. It was never about making 'sense'; it was always about manipulating humans into being controllable thru their fear of death and other spiritual unknowns.
Believe me, the writers of the bible don't worry about going to hell. They know perfectly well it doesn't exist, so they can do what they want while all the manipulated humans let them, thinking that if they try to protect themselves, they are sinning and will go to hell. *rolls eyes* Boy what a scam, and look how well it works, eh?
In fact, from what I see, any religion that has that kind of a disempowering message for it's followers was created for that very purpose. Just think how much easier it is for a dictator to rule a subdued and anti-violent population?? It is every tyrant's dream, eh?
[edit on 29-5-2009 by DragonriderGal]
[edit on 29-5-2009 by DragonriderGal]
Originally posted by stereovoyaged
reply to post by WickettheRabbit
Well at least your not one of those people that believe that fossils were put in the ground by "the devil". I cannot even begin to go on about how dangerous thinking like that is
ALL....not some, not chosen ALL of the animals on Earth pair up and go in this boat and live for 40 days and 40 nights while the whole planet is flooded, then a few ppl and the pairs of animal repopulate the planet?? Really???
Noah's Cosmic Ark: Preserving DNA on the Moon
By Michael Schirber
posted: 13 September, 2004
7:00 a.m. ET
The complexity of life took billions of years to push and stretch and reshape the biological niche that is Earth. It would seem prudent - if one had the means - to save some portion of the blueprints of this majesty, so that the process would not have to start over from scratch in the event of a global cataclysm.
Morbid, for sure, yet still prudent. But where to put this valuable backup so that it is both safe and handy? And what form should it take?
Last week the head of Europe's lunar missions said a DNA library might belong on the Moon.
"It would act as a mini Noah's Ark for repopulating the Earth after a catastrophe," explained Bernard Foing, chief scientist with the European Space Agency, in a telephone interview with SPACE.com. "It would be a second chance."
The Alliance to Rescue Civilization (ARC) advocates a "lunar sanctuary" to preserve Earth's whole record in case the planet is destroyed.
DNA banks of this sort are already being set up on Earth. One of them, called the Frozen Ark, is cataloguing species on the verge of extinction. "If you can save the DNA, it still exists for future generations of research," said Bill Holt from the Zoological Society of London, who sits on the Frozen Ark steering committee.
'Frozen Ark' to save animal DNA
By Julianna Kettlewell
BBC News Online science staff
Animals are disappearing from our planet at an alarming rate
A tissue bank that will store genetic material from thousands of endangered animals has been set up in the UK.
The Frozen Ark, as it is called, will preserve animal "life codes" even after their species have become extinct.
This will allow future generations of scientists to understand long lost creatures, and may also help with the conservation programmes of tomorrow.
The project is supported by the Natural History Museum, the Zoological Society of London and Nottingham University.
Sixth mass extinction?
. A dude walks on water, heals sick, turns water to wine, comes back from the dead, etc....