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Originally posted by OmegaPoint
The best definition I've heard for love is by M. Scott Peck author of the bestselling book "The Road Less Travelled" wherein he defines love thusly.
Love is the will, to give of one's self, for the sake of another's spiritual growth and well being (Peck makes no distinction between psychological and spiritual growth).
Originally posted by Adrifter
Love cannot be defined, love is, until it is experienced it is null and void, sadly some die never knowing..
"Also of course people do not want to change and will settle for comfort and simplicity, change only occurs when it must, understanding cannot be forced onto anyone or one's self for that matter."
Originally posted by Toughiv
Right, I do not believe we can deconstruct the matrix. The fact that we are part of this Universe already puts us within some sort of limitations, you HAVE to eat and drink, you HAVE to sleep etc. (I believe this is a perfectly balanced Universe, however, that balancing is corruption of "heaven" / utopia).
I personally am not a Christian, but do have quite a bit of knowledge of it. The Bible in istelf represents this in the Genesis stories. Lets say we entered the matrix when we ate that infamous apple, and our "eyes were opened and we knew that we were naked". That to me shows how we previously wasnt in this reality. And after choosing to know of Good and Evil, we came to this Universe, a balance between the two, a place where we are "naked" and have "eyes that opened". I personally believe that if interpreted metaphorrically, the Bible here shows how we, by our free will chose to come to this reality, we chose to learn freely. And the only way to learn freely is on an even keel, where good and evil are balance. If there were only Good, good would appear normal. I.e. if you were happy all the time, but never knew of sadness, you would never appreciate happiness for what it is.
However, when this is related to the society in which we live, then there is a seperate matrix all on its own. We since birth, are told what is the "right" way to act, i strongly suggest those of you who are not already familiar, read Alastair MacIntyre's Virtue Theory. When thinking upon it, what society ever has "how we should behave" correct? For example, in Western Culture suicide is wrong, yet in Japan Hara-Kiri is acceptable and seen as the honourable thing to do.
NWO tie into these ideals set by Western cultures, its almost as if you are processed from the natural, free Human being you are, into one that depends on and lives by the rules of society. It is this that I do not agree with. Nobody has more right to this Earth as I do. If i wanted to go sleep in a forest and fish I should be able to do so right? Well, (in UK) to fish you need a fishing license etc.
The LOVE of money is the root of all evil. Notice how Western culture is BASED upon money. You NEED money to pay bills, to get food, to travel etc. Therefore, money = power in western societies. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Thats what i think this thread is about. The social conditioning we are all put through. Not "ascending" beyond the reality that is this Universe. Yes this Universe is just a reality in which we are experiencing. And by "we" i mean our souls. However, it is a place of perfect balance, in which we can exercise our free will truely free. We experience and grow from this reality.
That's why we chose to bite the apple
Originally posted by Toughiv
reply to post by RobertPaulsim
I dont agree with you saying change cannot happen unless needed, since I feel we determine what we need.
When the old say "im too old to change" that is them with a self-defeatist attitude, its all psychology. Once you learn of how your body and mind try to react, try to keep you in your comfort zone you can always work against it.