Originally posted by TurkeyBurgersHow much would you be willing to give up for world peace?

How much would you be willing to give up for world enslavement?

Originally posted by TurkeyBurgersHow much would you be willing to give up for the chance for all of humanity to come together and explore the Universe TOGETHER in unity?

This is a beautiful thought but is not this "chance" or "opportunity" as old as time itself?

Originally posted by TurkeyBurgersNo frigging WAY are we going to be able to do it with the way the world currently is.

The way the world "currently" is... or the way you believe it is or perceive it to be?

Who among us is qualified enough to determine any of this?

If you thought you had ANY reason to complain now...

I don't even want to think about it.

I believe in positive thinking and all but surely you must not know of what you speak.

Originally posted by spectre76

Originally posted by TurkeyBurgersHow much would you be willing to give up for world peace?

How much would you be willing to give up for world enslavement?

Originally posted by TurkeyBurgersHow much would you be willing to give up for the chance for all of humanity to come together and explore the Universe TOGETHER in unity?

This is a beautiful thought but is not this "chance" or "opportunity" as old as time itself?

Originally posted by TurkeyBurgersNo frigging WAY are we going to be able to do it with the way the world currently is.

The way the world "currently" is... or the way you believe it is or perceive it to be?

Who among us is qualified enough to determine any of this?

If you thought you had ANY reason to complain now...

I don't even want to think about it.

I believe in positive thinking and all but surely you must not know of what you speak.

I believe in positive thinking. I believe that uniting the planet under one government would be a good thing. I really do think it is possible.

I know most would argue that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. I just do not see China leaving to explore the Galaxy as the Chinese and Russia going as the Russians and the U.S. going as the Americans. IDK though maybe it is the way it will happen? I would hate to see it. I would like the see the Earthlings going to explore the galaxy as Earthlings.

Maybe it will take us going about our exploring independently to realize that the borders we used to hold so dear no longer apply in the vastness of space. The only border being distance.

Since the majority of the world is Islam and Christian, and the Koran is a warped version of the new testament with one author i would target those religions to execute my 80% extermination plan. and the majority would be none the wiser. i believe the NWO is acting like they are controlled by/worshiping some evil deity to make the majority believe the end is coming soon and there religions are true. and when the time comes the majority will be happy to end there own existence to go play in gold flower fields with there fake god.

They use the Jewish christian and Islamic books, the few religious books with a begging and a end as a road map to complete there perfect plan, there final solution.

So yes i agree "Satan" worship is the final form of the new world order religion, a religion of self.

Technically Alice was right (and wrong). The worldly social religions such as Hindu, Moslem, Christian, Buddhist, Judaism, Paganism as well as the Sikh, Jain, etc., are all followers of deities within the material regions of creation. The material regions are owned, so to say, by the devil. Now the teachers originally associated with these practices as well as higher teachers (authoring the Vedas for example) where all under delusion and never actually escape the net of Kal (the devil). Some benevolence is extended in all these practices by the Devil as they keep the spirit entangled in the web of lies. Just as the illusion of worldly justice is maintained to a point, so the illusion of spiritual legitimacy maintained by the Devils religions by what ever name and however practiced. True religion and true salvation does exist now in this world and the full court press we see is a futile effort at preventing it from depopulating all the regions of matter.

Originally posted by millk
If only the New World Order made Satanism the final form of religion. We'd probably be a lot better off for it. I highly doubt that it will come to that though; too many people like you would make a big fuss about it.

People seem to forget this Country was founded on Christianity. If you look back at our forefathers generation we will see a higher set of morals and values.

As God has been removed from most public places we see gangs pop up, values destroyed, divorce, etc.

Yes people like me will stand up and fight this global religion. Many will die, as a result.

To turkeyburgers and spectre76

Do you guys know what youre saying? A global government will become slavery.

Say Bye-Bye to our Bill of Rights and Constitution. We should be Patriots.

You would also need to figure a happy medium between Communism and Socialism. The result would be fascism used as a central authority to maintain control, but "terror and censorship" is what would happen.

If lucifer is the creation of our mutual creator ... then aren;t angels (fallen or otherwise) and humans beholden to the ONE and the same ? Anything else , does not seem like good logic.

Originally posted by aethernaut
If lucifer is the creation of our mutual creator ... then aren;t angels (fallen or otherwise) and humans beholden to the ONE and the same ? Anything else , does not seem like good logic.

Yes we are beholden to one or the other but they are not the same.

There are 2 teams; God and Angels and Satan and demons. I guess it's a matter of which team you are on.

wonderworld I agree with you whole heartedly. I woulnt consider myslfe religous, but i do believe in God, Christ, and the Bible. That doesnt mean i look down on others for believing the same. Most of my friends really dont believe in anything. But anyway, I always had this theory that the Anti-Christ would come out of the Illuminati, and be the truly enlightened one or "illuminated". I also thought he would be part of many different world organizations. Or who knows, maybe its the Pope. lol

[edit on 19-5-2009 by MoreFunky85]

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Satanism isn't about demonic worship or worshipping Satan at all.

One quick read of the Satanic Bible will prove that without a shadow of a doubt.

The whole concept is based on loving one's self and worshipping you the person, versus an invisible force that works in mysterious ways.

There are rituals and other activities that could be considered dark or demonic, and yes there are many references to demons and hell, but the initial concept has been warped and twisted.

I don't think the NWO would be satanists, seems almost too good for them. I would believe they are probably atheists who would rather enslave the population on a more simple system such as the economy, than a something as voluntary as religion.

Religion doesn't hold as much power as it use to in the so called "free" world. The economy and the military are the only "true" weapons of the NWO.

~Keeper

Yeah, Satan is that little voice that lives in each and every one of us. Telling us to do things that are not good or 'unholy' some would say. Like it or not, that ol' Lucifer spirit has a nice hold on most of the population and pretty much always has throughout are history. He's as much a part of us as God, but neither is a puppet master, if we get consumed by our own shadow that was our decision. Sadly most people are 'self-decieved' at the present moment, but hell what else is new right?

Originally posted by wonderworld
The New World Order is not about Politics. It is about Religion.

It is about Worshipping Satan.

Satan Worship is clearly adopting a world-accepting philosophy. We are waiting on a New World Order; a Global Ruler will rise up “The Anti-Christ” Those who chose to follow will become a Satan worshipper, in all sense of the word. It is written and it will come to pass. It is the Truth and only the Truth.

Expect to see Global catastrophes increase in the near future and you will know the time is near. Will you bow down to the Beast and accept his Global Religion? Many will follow him; many will refuse to give up their worldly possessions, mankind is full of greed, it divides families, it turns friends against friends.

I see more and more Atheists bonding together; to denounce God in all his Glory and Might. What is the purpose? We should examine the severe consequences for doing this. My assumption is that Satan is hard at work, for he knows his days are numbered. Don’t be deceived!

Those in the New World Order who are in control of most of the governments of the world already today declare that to become a citizen of this order will require a Luciferian oath. "No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation.

Satan, Devil, Lucifer, same thing.

[edit on 18-5-2009 by wonderworld]

well it depends on what sources you are referring to.

satan is NOT luzifer.
Arihman is something like the image of ´satan´ of the western world, but
Ahriman an Luzifer are two spiritual beeings.


WIKI:
(anthroposophy)

Christ between Lucifer and Ahriman

Lucifer and his counterpart Ahriman figure in anthroposophy as two polar, generally evil influences on world and human evolution. Steiner described both positive and negative aspects of both figures, however: Lucifer as the light spirit which "plays on human pride and offers the delusion of divinity", but also motivates creativity and spirituality; Ahriman as the dark spirit which tempts human beings to "deny [their] link with divinity and to live entirely on the material plane", but also stimulates intellectuality and technology. Both figures exert a negative effect on humanity when their influence becomes misplaced or one-sided, yet their influences are necessary for human freedom to unfold.

According to anthroposophy, each human being has the task to find a balance between these opposing influences, and each is helped in this task by the mediation of the Representative of Humanity, also known as the Christ being, a spiritual entity who stands between and harmonizes the two extremes.

[edit on 22-5-2009 by anti72]

IMO the final religion will be weak Christianity followed by weak agnosticism with an interim period of science and technology worship interwoven in.... we will have fundamentalists go a little more nuts as it gets there as they see religion in its death throes.