reply to post by ExPostFacto
Does the military patent much of what it makes before the public is aware of it?
I think that is what you call a rhetorical question. The military could be using nano-thermate for decades. They'd only patent it before they sold it
to another country or made it public.
I'm unfamiliar with "nano-thermate" myself --- is this just a fancy word for "ground more finely and using purer substances?" I would think it
would make the reaction faster and hotter, but wouldn't be SO very different from regular thermate. Probably for use in a fuel-air reaction. So you
would detonate a whole area without a single source -- liquifying most of the material in the area but not creating much of a blast -- maybe an
implosion if anything.
It's interesting. But the WTC has been rendered useless as a crime scene. They destroyed all the scrap metal after they TOLD us what happened.
You know, the same people that lied about reasons for war, got us into Iraq, tortured people to create a connection, lied about that, got cronies to
find legal excuses justifying the torture, lied about that, told us we needed to fund a bunch of banks after telling us everything was fine or else
the economy would collapse. I'm missing about ten pages of lies here.
I prefer to conclude that the Bush government had a hand in 9/11 until they prove otherwise.
>> This interchange with Joe Biden means nothing;
1) No politician is going to answer some guy with an answer they haven't prepared out of the blue like that, because it will only bite them later.
2) Biden is just shocked about the question -- probably doesn't know what thermate is (though he is pretty well read on most matters).
3) You are asking the wrong man a question.
Maybe we should ask John McCain who those 4 specialists were who concluded that the Anthrax came from al Qaeda were.
Ask the NIST why they lied about the rate of collapse on WTC 7.
Ask Biden if he has talked to Susan Lindaeur or Siebel Edmunds yet.
>> Really folks, we were just TOLD what happened from the least trustworthy Americans EVER.
We are supposed to dot every I and cross every T without even being presented any facts we can rely on? Everybody who thinks there is a conspiracy is
suddenly a conspiracy theorist. I didn't have any conspiracies before 9/11 beyond coming to the realization that agencies in our government help ship
drugs (and that's been proven). I didn't stay up late at night, thinking what the hidden meaning of Ruby Ridge or any of the other unsolved
Well the steaming pile of nonsense and coincidence leading to 9.11 and the concerted effort to destroy information and hinder an investigation makes
it LOOK like a criminal conspiracy even if everything were innocent.
We didn't see this nonsense after the 1st WTC attack.
>> Anyway, just my two cents. Biden wouldn't be told a thing. Bush and company have been attempting to drive a wedge between him and the CIA --
requiring Obama to go visit the CIA and explain he had no interest in prosecuting agents for conspiracies. Why do you think he needed to do that?
Because he is trying to prevent the CIA going into full CYA mode, and shutting him out -- or worse.
What purpose does Cheney's world tour serve? Who is he convincing? If anything, he points a red flag at himself. Pelosi may have ties with AIPAC, but
trying to pin things on her is going to send her into Self-Defense mode -- making a Truth Commission over torture more likely.
But what did Cheney accomplish? He is tying himself in with evidence of ANY CIA progress with the war on terror and use of ILLEGAL techniques. If
Cheney has to defend himself -- and it requires information that is top secret and compromises intelligence, no trial will take place. Since there
likely is no support for Cheney's claims, he still pushes the CIA and intelligence communities to defend themselves AND Cheney.
Look at this Cheney character now. Look at how self-serving he is. If he ever did ANYTHING for his country, in this "noble lie" -- he thinks the
ends justify the means. But here he is, risking national security and all his allies on saving his own precious rear. Is THAT the kind of guy, who
would blink twice at a False Flag event? This guy wants you to fall on your sword CIA, not to defend the nation, but so that Dick Cheney can enjoy
another bumper year at Haliburton pealing potatoes for the military and selling them tainted water.
Sure defending him might NOT jeopardize security, but it's his own rhetoric to cover every action. It is conveniently trotted out or stowed away
whenever the need to not answer an inconvenient question arose.
The Bush government was full of Rumsfeld's, Atwaters and Cheney's. They had the money to hire people with brains. They had the ethics. Nothing
stopping them but the keen investigative nose of the media and the astuteness of the American Public from doing anything.
Hey, look at Katrina. Spent 3 months getting ice to the disaster. They looked pretty confused. Did you know during the first week, they closed 144
public schools? People are still standing around in putrid water waiting for rescue, and the Bush government is doing paperwork on closing schools.
If you look at the past 10 years in reverse, you get a better idea of priorities.
>> But Joe Biden is pretty well read but innocent as politicians go, and that's why I was never a fan of his. Perhaps he will get a crash course in
the duplicitous snakes he is dealing with.