A valid point-- how can Republicans be against abortion but be pro-military? , page 2
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reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 03:05 PM by Frankidealist35
reply to post by sdcigarpig


You actually believe the military protects our country?

The military just slaughters people for the new world order and for an aggressive foreign policy because they love blood... it's not for our own good.


reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 03:09 PM by Frankidealist35
reply to post by groingrinder


Wars may ensure big corporations profit but it kills millions of REAL LIVES.

Abortion only kills the unborn.

War kills real people.


reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 03:41 PM by DohBama
Originally posted by Frankidealist35
reply to post by sdcigarpig


You actually believe the military protects our country?

The military just slaughters people for the new world order and for an aggressive foreign policy because they love blood... it's not for our own good.


yes, the united states armed forces are eeevil and mean!

they kill people!

and dont we all know that killing is mean?

well, unless its its an unborn human, then thats just swell!

again, two entirely different subjects.


reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 03:49 PM by DohBama
Originally posted by Frankidealist35
reply to post by groingrinder


Wars may ensure big corporations profit but it kills millions of REAL LIVES.

Abortion only kills the unborn.

War kills real people.


what is it with liberals? is liberalism a disorder of some kind?

its a seductive conclusion....

gotta spell it our for them very plainly and clearly... (still no guarantee)

people who mean to kill american citizens are fair game for our military to kill.

thats what they're there for. to protect us so we can go to work and raise our families.

trying to kill your family? they must be killed first. got it?

unborn humans are also alive.

the first step in justifying genocide (or in this case, infanticide) is to dehumanize your victims.

this the position that liberals argue from.

"but, they're not people! not like us! they're just cells! and we're not... um, wait a sec..."

it is indeed a disorder.


remember, kids!:

liberals see what they believe.

conservatives believe what they see.



reply posted on 19-5-2009 @ 07:51 PM by sdcigarpig
Originally posted by Frankidealist35
reply to post by sdcigarpig


You actually believe the military protects our country?

The military just slaughters people for the new world order and for an aggressive foreign policy because they love blood... it's not for our own good.


Really? Last time I checked, and can check again, the US military is still under the control of its leaders, the chain of command is as follows:
President Obama
Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of staff in the Penetgon
The respective Generals, and Admirials of the different branchs of the armed forces, all of the way down to the commanders and XO's of the troops that are on the ground.
For better or worse, what would you have no Military at all?
Countries get ran over and taken in that case.

As far as the politcal parties, I believe they have lost touch with the people they are suppose to represent.


reply posted on 19-5-2009 @ 08:08 PM by Frankidealist35
Originally posted by FritosBBQTwist
Because "republican" ideology is flawed just like "democratic" ideology.

A valid point but pretty obvious...all ATS members should know that both parties are not for the people any more. I mean come on...you do not even have a chance at winning presidency unless you become one of these shrinks.

Want to know why? After all the hate on Bush has passed away, it will shift to Obama (if he does bad). Then another republican will become president. If he does good (which in reality is bad because all the ways they still screw us over), then he/another democrat will become president.

America does not see anything besides these two parties. Both suck.



I know this. I just thought I'd ask the question anyways.

Originally posted by sdcigarpig
Originally posted by Frankidealist35
reply to post by sdcigarpig


You actually believe the military protects our country?

The military just slaughters people for the new world order and for an aggressive foreign policy because they love blood... it's not for our own good.


Really? Last time I checked, and can check again, the US military is still under the control of its leaders, the chain of command is as follows:
President Obama
Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs of staff in the Penetgon
The respective Generals, and Admirials of the different branchs of the armed forces, all of the way down to the commanders and XO's of the troops that are on the ground.
For better or worse, what would you have no Military at all?
Countries get ran over and taken in that case.

As far as the politcal parties, I believe they have lost touch with the people they are suppose to represent.

The foreign policy is being controlled by a military industrial complex that is just out of control.

I would rather the government not have a monopolization of the military. I never said I would be for no military. Just that our current military is acting really hypocritical with their actions. They just want you to support the military and if you support the military everything will be fine. I'm not against the troops. I'm just against the military acting out of control like it has been doing and I think all of the commanders there should be fired for doing such a shoddy job.


reply posted on 19-5-2009 @ 08:43 PM by Frankidealist35
reply to post by Exile71


That's not my point.

Republicans say that they're pro-life. But they're too trigger happy when it comes to war. I know both parties do this. But a lot of Republican types think we need war and stuff. It just is funny how they can call themselves pro-life.


reply posted on 19-5-2009 @ 09:26 PM by desert
Originally posted by groingrinder
reply to post by Frankidealist35

Abortion is a small money maker. War is a big money maker.


You might be closer to the truth
OTOH being anti-abortion probably draws in a few bucks to organization coffers.

Republicans certainly didn't back Clinton on Bosnia. Of course, that region of the world wouldn't cause the Republican religious fundamentalism base to salivate over "end time" prophecy. Maybe Republican wars are fine, but wars under a Democratic leader are not. Bosnia...no! Iraq....yay!
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