A valid point-- how can Republicans be against abortion but be pro-military? , page 1


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reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 12:42 PM by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by Frankidealist35



Okay, this is a little kooky. Abortion kills innocent babies, who cannot help who there parents are. There is not one conservative that I know who loves the idea of war.

Answer this how come you liberals love the idea of pro-choice (killing babies) but loathe the idea of the death penalty?


reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 12:44 PM by DarkStormCrow
Pro Military and Pro National Defense doesnt necessarily mean that you agree with an interventionist foreign policy.
Many conservatives /republicans are of a much more isloationist/non interventionist bent much like Ron Paul.
I very much favor having a strong defense and military in the hopes that we would never have to use it.
Your assumption that our military goes out of its way to kill innocents is unwarranted.
Many folks such as myself consider that abortion especially after the first trimester is murder, and I am not a Christian by the way so it is not just Christians who feel this way. When you consider that half of the abortions that are performed within the US are the womans 2,3,or even 4th or more abortion that is not only irresponsible it is murder with no excuse. Abortion is being used as birth control in up to 50 percent of the cases.

If a woman wants to get an abortion in the first trimester of her pregnancy in the case of rape incest of health of the mother I really dont have an objection to that. When a woman wants an abortion because she and her partner are to stupid to use birth control, or they just dont want to be bother with a child that is murder.

But lets have a compromise Abortion to be legal in all cases but if you recieve an abortion for reasons that are not rape, incest, or threat to the life of the mother, then at the time you recieve that abortion you also get sterilized because you are to stupid or irresponsible to have children as proven by your failure to utilize birth control or abstain from child producing activities.


reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 12:59 PM by 5thElement
reply to post by Frankidealist35



It is odd, indeed

Here is George Carlin clip on this particular issue ...

I think he explains situation pretty good




reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 01:05 PM by justsomeboreddude
reply to post by Frankidealist35



Nice take on my thread about Liberals/Abortion/Torture. I cannot speak for all Republicans, since I kinda just vote for the people I feel comfortable with regardless of party affiliation.

The reason I can be against abortion is that the child is innocent of anything so therefore has a right to have a shot at life.

I am pro military because I am realistic enough to realize that a country must defend itself, and sometimes in doing that innocent people die. It makes me sad that they die, but I realize that if you can not resolve your differences politically and if they are important enough.. you must go to war to determine which side gets its way.



reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 02:14 PM by Frankidealist35
reply to post by DarkStormCrow



How is it unwarranted?

Isn't that what the military does?

Don't Republicans just keep voting for the Republican party because they think they're strong and Democrats are weak?

And we do kill several people in war. We've killed far more people in wars than people have died from in abortions.

It's funny how Republicans will always bring up abortion statistics... but never talk about war.

justsomeboreddude

posted on 18-5-2009 at 01:05 PM

reply to post by Frankidealist35


Nice take on my thread about Liberals/Abortion/Torture. I cannot speak for all Republicans, since I kinda just vote for the people I feel comfortable with regardless of party affiliation.

The reason I can be against abortion is that the child is innocent of anything so therefore has a right to have a shot at life.

I am pro military because I am realistic enough to realize that a country must defend itself, and sometimes in doing that innocent people die. It makes me sad that they die, but I realize that if you can not resolve your differences politically and if they are important enough.. you must go to war to determine which side gets its way.


We aren't defending ourselves we're just blowing the **** out of everyone.


reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 02:15 PM by Frankidealist35
reply to post by Flighty



Yeah. I think I personally am against both. But I view it more as a woman's rights thing and if we just outlawed abortion women would do it on the black market. But if we outlawed war-- the world would be a much better place IMO.


reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 02:17 PM by groingrinder
reply to post by Frankidealist35



Abortion is a small money maker. War is a big money maker.


reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 02:18 PM by Frankidealist35
reply to post by groingrinder



War put us in this deficit in the first place.

How could you possibly define spending $10 trillion as a big money maker?

I guess for halliburten and the big oil companies sure...


reply posted on 18-5-2009 @ 02:25 PM by groingrinder
Originally posted by Frankidealist35
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post by groingrinder



War put us in this deficit in the first place.

How could you possibly define spending $10 trillion as a big money maker?

I guess for halliburten and the big oil companies sure...


That is exactly what I mean. You and I, Joe Taxpayer only lost money.

Halliburton and several other contributors to the Republican cause made HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON THE IRAQ WAR.
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