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Anti-Gun Blacklist Bill Introduced in U.S. House

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posted on May, 18 2009 @ 11:28 AM

Anti-Gun Blacklist Bill Introduced in U.S. House

Rumor was enough to get you burned as a witch in Salem, Massachusetts. It was enough to get you shot in Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia. It's enough to get your head chopped off in parts of Iraq infested with madmen claiming to carry out Allah's will.

And if U.S. Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.) has his way, it may be enough to prohibit you from acquiring a firearm or federal firearm license, especially if the Attorney General is as opposed to gun ownership as Janet Reno was during the Clinton Administration, and as Eric Holder is today.

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posted on May, 18 2009 @ 11:28 AM
This bill is in the first step in the legislative process, as stated on the link below from government, and as I read it I could not but agree with the statements from the NRA-ILA found on the OP.

This bill, if approved, will give the Attorney General the power to deny the sale, delivery, or transfer of a firearms, or explosive "license" to dangerous, or to "apropiately suspected" terrorists.

As the article also states, and I quote

H.R. 2159 does not, however, impose any requirements or limits on the information the Attorney General could use to make a determination, and it proposes that "any information which the Attorney General relied on for this determination may be withheld from the applicant if the Attorney General determines that disclosure of the information would likely compromise national security."

These gun-grabbers are trying to pass this bill even thou federal law established certain guidelines for the 9 category of persons currently prohibited from owning a firearm, and it protecs people's right to know why they are being denied such an important right, more so because such denial could be due to incomplete, or incorrect records in the FBI database. Now apparently the gun-grabbers want to be able to deny the American people this fundamental right, and not allow you to know why you are being denied this right.

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posted on May, 18 2009 @ 11:52 AM
Considering the long list of people believed to be a threat, this would effectively eliminate the 2nd amendment rights of about half the population. What a way to get around the constitution.

Better buy guns while you still can.

posted on May, 18 2009 @ 05:36 PM
I'm beginning to suspect that this whole 'domestic terrorist' thing is payback from the liberals for the McCarthy hearings. When all is said and done, this is just transposed McCarthyism. I don't see how it can be Constitutional to restrict someone's rights based on what they might do. Hopefully, enough people in congress will see that as well.


posted on May, 18 2009 @ 05:54 PM
Here you have the problem.

The city dwelling, latte sipping senators and representatives from New York, New Jersey, Mass., and California forcing anti-gun legislation through that will affect Texas, Florida, Virginia, and Arizona.

In states like Texas, firearms ownership is viewed as a piece of their cultural heritage, it's truly symbolic to them.

This really could split the country if they keep pushing it, I don't think anyone really understands how deep this runs.


posted on May, 18 2009 @ 10:10 PM
I'm afraid that they will attack just one person at the time. Slowly, they will take everything away from all of us unless we ALL stand up for our rights. We should ALL contact our congressmen and senators and let them know that we will NOT tolerate what is being done to our rights.

posted on May, 18 2009 @ 10:18 PM
I can see this causing a second revolution in America.

As was stated, in some states owning a gun is part of their heritage. I live in Texas, own a gun, and will fight any who try to take it from me to the death.

It is my right and no law usurping our great and honorable Constitution will make me bend to the government's will.

posted on May, 18 2009 @ 10:48 PM
reply to post by ElectricUniverse

Nice heads up!

IMHO,you will see more states do what Montana is effect, they are telling the Feds to go stuff themselves...

Montana Gun Legislation

Nobody is really talking about the implications of this move, but there will certainly be a Supreme Court case addressing it..and depending on the outcome...well, this will get explosive quickly...

posted on May, 18 2009 @ 11:31 PM
Yeah just like soon EVERY name in the US will be on the Terrorist whatch list???

NO THANKS! If they pass this, I consider it TREASON of the highest level.

posted on May, 20 2009 @ 03:19 PM
I was able to attend a gun show in my state early this month, and there was a table set up in which two people, a man, and a woman were giving pamphlets about our Living Documents/Constitutional documents, and were getting people to sign in against the government making such UnConstitutional laws.

I noticed that most Americans attending the gun show, and were passing by listened somewhat to what these two were saying, but noone stopped to sign, or talk to these two people. However, I did stop and started talking to them about the dictatorial Communist system which my parents, and I were able to escape. I told them that I served in the U.S. Navy trying to protect the Republic, and told them how I saw with sadness, alongside most other Cubans, and people who have escaped from Communist dictatorships that the same thing that happened to countries like Cuba, was more gradually, and slowly happening to the United States.

Many of the laws, and programs being implemented in the U.S. are all completely Socialist, and based on a system that turns countries into dictatorships.

I also told these two people how such systems also use tactics such as infiltrating oposition groups, and posing as people who were also trying to fight against the injustices, and the programs being implemented by the dictatorship, but they would do this to report back to the state who were the oposition.

Anyway, I told them how in such systems these impersonators compile lists of people, and then they give them to the state, and sometimes good intentioned people unintentionally give names of possible opossition to the state. In other words, how dictatorships use spies, and also use some good intentioned people to get lists of anyone the dictatorship sees as possible trouble against their system.

I stated to them that what is happening in the U.S. is already so ingrained, and many Americans were so brainwashed that it would be almost impossible to stop this transformation of the Republic into a National Socialist, or worse, a Communist country.

I was conflicted on whether I should sign that list, which they said they would send to DC, with a statement asking for them to stop the dismantling of the Republic.

I decided at the end to sign, because i think it is worse not to try to do anything to stop this, but what happened next had me perplexed.

During this whole time, the woman was sometimes staring sideways at me, which at times it seemed strange to me, as she apparently couldn't look at me in the eyes for too long. The man thanked me for my service in the Navy, and extended his hand, I shook his hand, and when I was trying to release my hand he was still holding my hand in the shake, and looked me straight in the eyes.

I was still trying to release my hand without being too violent because I thought he probably was going to say something else about the discussion, but I just wanted to continue looking at the things the vendors were selling, but this man continued holding my hand in the shake and looking me in the eyes, this must have lasted about 40 seconds to a minute. He kept repeating thank you for your service, but the whole thing was a bit disconcerting to me.

I don't know if this man was gay, or if the whole thing at the end was something else, but I kept thinking about it, and how the woman couldn't look at my eyes directly after I have been telling them about my experiences with Communism, etc.

Anyway, I understand that for many people there is some conflict on whether or not we should fight this by contacting our representatives, etc, because people who have been part of the tea bag parties, and were part of such demonstrations were/are being watched and being labelled as possible terrorists.

This had me thinking that it could be possible that politicians are being ordered to turn in the names of anyone who sends in complains about this bill, and similar programs the government, and present administration are trying to pass. But then again if we do nothing it would be worse imo. I'll rather fight than sit still and allow the total dissolution of the Republic.

I have sent several letters to my representatives in my state about this same topic, to never have gotten a response from them, which begs to question, exactly what are they doing? Is it possible instead of responding to Americans who are raising concerns about what is happening to this Great Republic, are we being flagged as "possible terrorists"? I believe it could be possible.

[edit on 20-5-2009 by ElectricUniverse]

posted on May, 20 2009 @ 03:27 PM
A couple of states already have similar legislation. CT, for example, cops can enter your home and confiscate all of you firearms on nothing more than an anonymous call claiming "disturbing behavior" or "threatening."

Once confiscated you'll have to attend hearings to prove you arent insane to a biased board and should this board deem you fit good luck getting your property back. The state has "I saw a gun" hotlines and everything.

Something like that nationally would definitely solidify the divide between the people for sure.

posted on May, 20 2009 @ 03:30 PM
My friend and I discussed this over email... he just sent me this...

I just called the NRA-ILA (Institute for Legislative Action) and they said its unlikely to pass. They think they have the votes to block it. The NRA Rocks.

posted on May, 20 2009 @ 03:36 PM
This is such a ridiculous idea. We've already seen what happened with the terrorist watch list.

reply to post by TheAssociate

I'm beginning to suspect that this whole 'domestic terrorist' thing is payback from the liberals for the McCarthy hearings

That has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Name me some "liberal" politicians proposing this who were blacklisted then or even involved in that era of the cold war.

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