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Muslim chef 'refused to cook sausages and bacon for police officers' breakfasts'

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posted on May, 17 2009 @ 04:04 PM
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Muslim chef 'refused to cook sausages and bacon for police officers' breakfasts'


www.dailymail.co.uk

Muslim working as a catering manager for the police 'flatly refused' to cook sausages and bacon for officers' breakfasts, a tribunal has heard.

Hasanali Khoja, 60, would not have any direct or indirect contact with pork products, even if using gloves and tongs, claiming that 'splashback' from frying would breach the requirements of his faith.
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posted on May, 17 2009 @ 04:04 PM
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Okay now this is ridiculous, its obviously intended for a far greater cause other than what he claims it to be. To try and even make a case about this goes beyond me. I wonder what the chief of police thought when he was told about this persons decision not to cook breakfast for them.

I do realize that our society is not a perfect one but, ummm....this is way out there in the twilight zone.

(Note to Site Owner's, i do not like the colors on your site as it represents a dark cult ritual involving animal and i pro animal supporter..:-) ( humans are exempt form being named as animals as i believe they may or may not have intelligence))

www.dailymail.co.uk
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posted on May, 17 2009 @ 04:07 PM
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give an inch,they take a mile..ya give a mile,they want it all..

We need to stop this foolishness now in its tracks,before we are the minority..



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 04:10 PM
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fire the chef and get a new one,problem solved.Oh wait this is yet another muslim bashing thread where we agree that all muslims are against western principles and they wish to invade europe blah blah woof woof!



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 04:14 PM
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More relevant is that he was senior catering manager, a mainly administrative position. He'd made the Police well aware of his religious convictions before he was employed ... so it's hardly surprising he had concerns when they insisted he do some cooking.

Muslim. Pork. Not a good combination. Surely HR took that into account when they gave him the job ?

So combine that with his allegations about racial/religious intolerance ... and why shouldn't he complain ?



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 04:16 PM
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Hi there, no its no Muslim bashing thread, just showing what happens when someone puts his faith over his job and responsibility as a professional.

Have you read the article at all ?



Mr Khoja said: 'I explained I would have problems handling pork products. I was told the senior catering manager position mainly involved administrative tasks and no handling of foods.'

He was taken on, but after his computer skills were found lacking and he failed two assessments he was demoted to 'higher catering manager'.



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 04:16 PM
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How dare that man save one of the world's fine police officers from a cholesterol and high saturated fat breakfast meal.

What's he trying to do? Extend out this police officers life?

How dare he abuse the good dietery sense of his religious faith in such a dispicable way.

What's he trying to do make friends?

The English clearly need to bring back drawing and quartering for such an egregious offence of the inaleanable right of all people to just say no.

Guess you have to know Nancy personally for it to be ok?



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by tristar
Okay now this is ridiculous
www.dailymail.co.uk
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I agree... this thread is ridiculous.

If it was a Jewish chef making the same objection... for the same reasons, as matter of faith... would you bother posting it?

For some reason I doubt it.



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 04:23 PM
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Has nothing to do with him being a Muslim imo. This is just a poor employee. Fire him an be done with it.



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 04:24 PM
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Oh i have posted threads about all religions, i have no issue with religion. A recent post of mine did show the stupidity of an Israeli abusing a film crew and at some point a person posted why don't you show what the Palestine's do to the Israelis. Obviously my immediate post was to depict how stupid the Palestine's are in inflicting similar attitude to people who have nothing better to do than simply to create problems.

View here: www.abovetopsecret.com...

Reason why i post these topics is to perhaps show some people that religion needs to be placed within a persons home and not upon any other person. This has nothing to do with what you have posted.



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 04:29 PM
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I've been spending some time at a mosque with some friends trying to educate myself on these matters and why they are taken so seriously. This man's faith really does prevent him from handling pork at any level.

For instance in the Qu'ran, intoxicants are forbidden. My friend Hassan ate pizza with a pinch of red wine in the sauce and he purged it when he found out it was in there. There are strict dietary laws in Islam that are adhered to strictly only by Moslem's who are deeply religious.

This man did what he thought was right. He didn't do anything wrong. We really need to stop demonizing everything Moslem just because the MSM has convinced everybody that Moslems everywhere are evil.



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 04:35 PM
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I would say you do what any normal person would do. If he was hired to cook breakfast, then you turn around and sue him and his complany for breach of contract. If it was a volunteer, you appologize for the misunderstanding. In any case it also means that the police choose not to frequent his company, or anyother function that this cook is working at, or when engaging for catering, being very specific to have him not present, as it would be wrong to offend him. A loss of business would do alot more than you think. When I worked in the convience store business, I can tell you that we would give the police coffee for free, as a courtesy for them to coming in. The polieter we were to them, the more they would stop by and check things out. Businesses who were not, or did not offer what they wanted in the way of services or products, well did not have the police come around as often.



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 04:43 PM
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Hi there,

I am not trying to provoke anyone, all i have said and i will continue to say it over and over, is leave your personal beliefs at home or at your religious pre defined area of worship.

When you apply yourself to a profession, you apply yourself to that, to the best of your ability. When you or who ever brings the religious side as a cause for not being professional then as i posted there are two items at hand. 1) Your looking for a quick way to get rich through courts, or 2) Lack of intelligence.

So in my case, i am not allowed to swear or be near persons who swear and suddenly get on a public transport system and someone is swearing, does that give me the right to take the Public Transport to court for failure to respect my religious beliefs. ?



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 04:47 PM
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Not possible. This man did everything he could to warn them that pork products could not be handled by him. Islam and it's members cannot abolish these laws for monetary gain, the man will likely have to find another job. I guess you wouldn't understand unless you found a mosque to hang out at and got acquainted with Islam.



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 04:54 PM
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Hi there,

As a matter of fact, i have a large number of buddies who are Muslim's which are very dependent on their religion on a day to day time frame. However, when we attend or go to clients over seas, we leave our religion at home. In the business world there is no or very limited amount of room for religion.

Keep in mind, when i fly to Dubai and the person brings me my breakfast which coincedently has bacon eggs orange juice and two slices of brown bread, does that guy who is bringing me my breakfast not have an issue with it ?

What i am pointing out again and i will continue to do so , is leave your faith at home or if you carry it make sure you carry for yourself and no one else.



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by tristar
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Hi there, no its no Muslim bashing thread, just showing what happens when someone puts his faith over his job and responsibility as a professional.


Here's what you're not understanding. In Islam there is nothing higher that can be put above the service to Allah. Islam is not like other religions. I recommend reading this site to understand where they are coming from.

www.islamicity.com...



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 05:02 PM
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According to Hassan there are as many Moslems in name only as there are Christians in name only. I doubt your buddies leave religion at home. Islam goes where you go when you're Moslem. You're not going to catch them eating or even handling pork products. You'll likely not see them drinking alcohol or doing drugs unless they have renounced the laws of Allah. It's just the way it is man.



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by tristar
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Hi there,

I am not trying to provoke anyone, all i have said and i will continue to say it over and over, is leave your personal beliefs at home or at your religious pre defined area of worship.

When you apply yourself to a profession, you apply yourself to that, to the best of your ability. When you or who ever brings the religious side as a cause for not being professional then as i posted there are two items at hand. 1) Your looking for a quick way to get rich through courts, or 2) Lack of intelligence.

So in my case, i am not allowed to swear or be near persons who swear and suddenly get on a public transport system and someone is swearing, does that give me the right to take the Public Transport to court for failure to respect my religious beliefs. ?


In most places that have the freedom of speech, no it would be turned down. But in this case you have to ask yourself is what you believe in going to allow you to survive in the world. I have beliefs and try to adhere to them where I can, but, there are times, when I am working I must violate those beliefs, because of the nature of the job. And I have to accpet those consequences of that job. And if it is too distasteful, I find another job. It does not matter what his beliefs are, rather that he is working in a job that requires that he perform services. I find it hard to believe, that working as a cook, he would not have figured out that he would have to cook pork products at one point or another, in some form or another. Or that he was careful enough to take a look and check out all of the ingrediants before he touched them.
The point being that if you are working a job, you have to weigh what you do and what is required, failure to do such means that either you get written up or fired, and for a company it means you could loose business or get sued for failing to provide services as a punitive action.



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 05:14 PM
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Nope there very dedicated to their religion, they are just not fanatics.

In our day and time, were all of humanity is reaching for the stars were science and mathematics are the fundamental building blocks of humanity, religion has to take a back seat in order to preserve our existence. Our destiny as a species is to travel into space, not to be locked down to earthly objects or ideologies.

Note: Look at the current events going on at this very moment within Turkey and you will see the prime and most evident example of what happens when religion is involved. The so deeply would benefit from joining the E.U. country club, but as always religions is keeping some 20 million at third world country of poverty level. I wont even approach other nations who use similar tactics to suppress any form of free thinking.



posted on May, 18 2009 @ 12:55 AM
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If he can't cook what's on the menu then he can't do the job. Reasons behind it don't matter. He needs to find a job he can do and the employer needs to screen future employees for this in the future.

Simple - no need for a holy war over breakfast.



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