reply to post by Northwarden
"1. Push God out of the schools. If the people grow up without reference to God, then they will consider God irrelevant to day-to-day life. in the
last fifty years this has happened. God is irrelevant to most people."
What about separation of Church and State? USA has Jewish, Muslim, atheist and many other students in today's schools to think about. Why support one
religion and debase all the other beliefs? Religion should be done at home or the churches, not at school.
"2. Break the traditional Judeo-Christian family concept. Break communication between parents and children so that parents can't pass on spiritual
values to their children. Do this by pushing excessive child rights."
I take it you have never dealt with troubled children who have been abused as toddlers. I have seen old cigarette burn scars and teenagers given to
them at very young ages. Children need some protections and it is terrible to have to protect them from their own parents. Sad, but true in many
"3. Remove restrictions on sex. Sex is the biggest joy and Christianity robbs people of this. People must be freed to enjoy it without restrictions.
It's not just for married, it's for everybody."
This is nothing new. Most of our Founding Fathers had mistresses and many fathered out of wedlock children.
You are correct that controlling sex is what the churches are all about. They have never been able to do that fully even in their own church. Many
popes of the past had fathered many children.
"4. Since sex is the greatest expression of man's enjoyment of life, man must be free to express sex in all its forms. Homosexuality, orgies, even
bestiality are desirable so long as no one is being abuses or harmed."
Homosexuality is always equated with bestiality by some Christians. If two people love each other and are soul mates, why not let them have the full
benefits of society?
"5. People must be free to abort unwanted children. If a man can have sex and then live without the consequences then the same should be true for a
woman. A woman must have the right to abort an unwanted child."
Surprisingly to many, I am pro life in this argument.
"6. Every person develops soul-bonds, so when a soul-bond wears out a person must be free to divorce. When one starts to grow, one must be free to
get together with that person, even if they are married ..."
Divorce has always been around. King Henry VIII was one to get a divorce instead of the usual annulment (the marriage never happened). I agree divorce
rates are high, but that is something the people involved in the marriages need to work out. It is better to divorce than stay in a loveless
"7. Diffuse religious radicalism. Christianity says Jesus is the only way. Diffuse this by:
A) Silencing Christianity and
B) Promoting other faiths. The creation of interfaith harmony"
Again, there should be no promotion of any one belief in the school systems or the government. (I also believe churches should be taxed, but that is
another discussion.) We are seeing what is happening all over the world as one religious group says they are the only way. Blowing up the infidel and
killing others in the name of their one "true" religion. Mutual respect is a good thing here.
"8. Use the media to influence mass opinion. Create mass opinion that is receptive to these values by using tv film, the press, etc. Note well that
what western believers call normal, in the African Church would be pornography."
I do agree that the more adult programming should be shown later at night. But I am opposed to censorship of any kind. I wonder if showing a young man
being bludgeoned to death on a crime show is OK, but to show him stepping out of the shower is a sin according to your church?
"9. Debase art in all its forms. Corrupt music, painting, poetry and every expression of the heart and make it obscene, immoral, and occultic. Debase
the arts in every way possible."
So is Peter Paul Rubens nudes considered immoral? And a nice jab at Paganism and Wiccans in here too. If an artist wants to make something obscene, go
for it. Just do not use tax dollars to support it.
"10. Get the church to endorse every one of these nine strategies. Get the church to accept these principles and to say they are okay - the legal
ground is given for these value to get a foothold."
The churches are opposed to all of these. They will never support them as they are good fund raisers.