Pat Robertson: Gay marriage is 'the beginning in a long downward slide' to legalized child molesta, page 2


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reply posted on 17-5-2009 @ 01:11 PM by machinegun_go_go
reply to post by Albertarocks



Hey,

Don't feel bad, my friend.

It's just that I really think that Pat Robinson is making a crazy extrapolation here.

I understand why you don't have faith in humanity though.

I just like to think that on the whole we, as the masses, are good.

Ignorant - yes. Easily manipulated and led by the few - yes. Evil - no.

Keep smiling.

MGGG

Edit to add:

Pink...I agree that unfortunately gay people ARE fighting against persecution many many areas, and that makes me so, so sad for my homosexual friends.

[edit on 17-5-2009 by machinegun_go_go]


reply posted on 17-5-2009 @ 01:39 PM by Albertarocks
Originally posted by machinegun_go_go
reply to
post by Albertarocks



Hey,

Don't feel bad, my friend.

It's just that I really think that Pat Robinson is making a crazy extrapolation here.

I understand why you don't have faith in humanity though.

I just like to think that on the whole we, as the masses, are good.

Ignorant - yes. Easily manipulated and led by the few - yes. Evil - no.

Keep smiling.

MGGG


A sincere thanks for lettin' me off the hook man. Really, I don't want to be disliked because I face facts. I'm with you 100% in my craving to be able to have more faith in mankind. You keep smilin' too my friend. And tanks again!


reply posted on 17-5-2009 @ 04:31 PM by Pamie
reply to post by Albertarocks



I like your discussion of this theory (would make its own good thread, applied to many other topics).

And, I get what your saying about the theory applied to this topic. And, I hope I'm not wrong in saying that you seem to be offering a theory, not agreeing with Pat R per say. Or, did I miss read?

Anyway, I'm going with the Pat R is wrong. He makes me sick most of the time, and I'm not talking about his religion. I prefer tolerance and understanding and loath faulty logic and hypocrisy.


reply posted on 17-5-2009 @ 04:50 PM by Solomons
reply to post by Ahabstar



Equating beastiality to homosexuality is just stupid first of all...second of all no it wouldn't be the same.I think both you and i can distinguish between such things? paedophiles? eh? two consenting adults = paedophiles? as for beastiality which you mentioned i dont think there should be a law for such things,if some dude wants to have a relationship with a donkey let him for christs sake..too much interference thats the problem from both liberals and conservatives..you all want a piece of the pie yet say you dont just to gain some brownie points.


reply posted on 17-5-2009 @ 05:17 PM by BO XIAN
reply to post by jfj123



WRONG.

The pending law specifically protecting various perversions including pedophilia

AGAINST HATE CRIMES

while specifically exempting Christians from such protection

is a case in point.

Robertson says some hasty things on occasion.

However, I find him a LOT more constructive and rational than I find OThuga & crew.


reply posted on 17-5-2009 @ 05:38 PM by jfj123
Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to
post by jfj123



WRONG.

The pending law specifically protecting various perversions including pedophilia

AGAINST HATE CRIMES

while specifically exempting Christians from such protection

is a case in point.

Robertson says some hasty things on occasion.

However, I find him a LOT more constructive and rational than I find OThuga & crew.


Please provide a legit source for this that shows that pedophilia will be protected under law.
Thank you.

Reading his quotes and false prophesies, seems like he says a lot of hasty things.

[edit on 17-5-2009 by jfj123]


reply posted on 17-5-2009 @ 05:41 PM by niteboy82
reply to post by jfj123



I didn't read all the posts in this thread, in fact, as you can see I am responding to yours which is the OP.

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Gay men and women need a reality check, as does the far right, imo. It's so easy to get angry and screech at the idea that someone is going to see gay marriage as a downward spiral to pedophilia.

I'd urge people not to get angry and look at this for what it is (propaganda of the worst kind = hatred), but I know that not all would see it this way. It's unfortunate, but it is the way it goes. You will have "liberals" screaming and you will have "conservatives" screaming. The higher powers have mercy on these misguided souls, as neither of them are right because they fail to see the reality outside of their one-sided reality experience.

I'm perhaps the harshest, yet most lenient critic of propaganda of this kind, as I have personally seen ideas via u2u's that I have shared with members today that made me think "outside the box." A brief background, I have worked with, and reported for, the most far "left" pro-gay rights proponents in the field.

*If you're not capable of forming your own viewpoint, please read no further, as it will intensify your viewpoint at the detriment of another...*

Pat Robertson, and also people like Shawn Gaylord, Martha Langmuir, et al I have viewpoints that are unfortunately dissimilar yet equal in the idea that they all work for the cause that is the opposite of the other.

I used to believe that one or the other (or both) were fighting for a "middle ground" that we could eventually reach through bickering back and forth. Unfortunately, after becoming more aware of the situation that we are put in as Americans specifically, yet as humans nationwide, is that once again we are forced to take a side.

A very important idea was put out earlier in a thread by Jsobecky, on why can't there be a "civil union" that takes the place of marriage for a gay partnership.

Why? Because that would make sense. It would alleviate the problematic debate of a few decades in one quick political maneuver. Yet that would kill off monetary assets on either side that are proponents of such changes.

Wow do I wish it wasn't this way, but seeing both sides of this, and trying to remain on the outside while existing in life through the inside makes me very angry. Civil unions, equal in rights to marriage, will finish it off.

And to all the non-gay supporters of this "marriage," why on earth would we want to be a party to something that has oppressed homosexuals for so long. While I would like to believe that marriage can exist outside the religious institution, I don't believe it currently can. Can it be about the equal rights, and start from somewhere? Your cause for equal rights with this marriage deal are keeping the rest of us that just want something behind.
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