Originally posted by ChrisF231
False rape accusations are shockingly common. In the 1990s a report by the US Air Force Office of Special Investigations (their criminal investigation arm) indicated that as high as 40% of rape complaints they investigated were false.

Ha!

If there is one organisation I would trust LESS than the MSM in regards to situations like this it's the military!!!

Of course they are going to come up with a high nmber of false rape claims, hell, they can't even admit the going ons at Guantanimo are a crime!

I would like to know the percentage of women who have been abused in the Military, but I guess that it would be less than 40% get out of the military unscaved.

Just a side-note on part on the culture of the high profile lives that these league players live. (remember too, most of these guys are under 30, extremely fit/attractive, quite wealthy despite never having had a 'real job', grown up in the rugby/league drinking culture, and get recognized in public/social circles everywhere).

Woman are known to track down (via hotel staff, facebook, team admin etc) exactly where league teams/players will be staying and socializing while in town for a game, then literally track them down and throw themselves at them with the sole intention of being able to 'get famous/have a good story' because they got with a footy star/stars.

I'm not saying that there isn't blame on the players in this instance but come on... she allowed herself to go back to a hotel room with two drunk league guys she had just met, obviously she hasn't got too much self respect. So it shouldn't come as a surprise that no one else respected her either.

Here is where i should add a brilliant, inflammatory, sexist, 'she's a slut' comment, but i'll restrain myself.

It is only because Matthew Johns is so famous that he has become the scapegoat. Ironically it's his fame which allowed him the opportunity to take her back to the hotel in the first place, and it's his fame that has allowed the media to make such an over-the-top story about this.

Other than him being unfaithful to his wife, i feel for the guy, he didn't do anything other than what 90% of single men with a libido would've done in that situation.

Originally posted by Dr.Venkman
I'm not saying that there isn't blame on the players in this instance but come on... she allowed herself to go back to a hotel room with two drunk league guys she had just met, obviously she hasn't got too much self respect. So it shouldn't come as a surprise that no one else respected her either.

wow.. you make it sound like any woman who has low self esteem and no self respect should expect to be raped? Kick someone while they're down eh? thats sick.

Agreeing to one is not agreeing to all.. and agreeing to fooling around is not agreeing to having sexual intercourse. and agreeing to going to a hotel room; while naive.. is not agreeing to being abused as a piece of "bonding" meat.

Other than him being unfaithful to his wife, i feel for the guy, he didn't do anything other than what 90% of single men with a libido would've done in that situation.

Incorrect. They acted like animals and I do not believe that 90% of men would take turns at treating a woman as a sex doll. I think many "normal" men word actually remove her from the situation. Matthew Johns even apologised for not doing so and allowing it all to happen.

..besides which there are many players and several other incidences where rape by football players has been proven in a court room.. one being a woman being attacked in her own bed.

It's not like these (largely built) men were just innocent bystanders lining up who's penises just "fell" inside a scared (apparently to the point of not being able to move) teenage girl.

[edit on 17-8-2009 by riley]

I have no idea if THIS case is true or not, only she and the men involved know for sure, but I can tell you, I have seen a few FALSE rape cases at work. And in my 8+ years in law enforcement, the number one reason women lie about being raped: they were cheating and felt guilty, or knew the current bf/hubby was going to find out they were cheating and instead of losing what they got, they chose the rape route in hopes to save face.
**This answer is NOT my opinion, in my department, 4 of 6 women admitted THIS was why they lied**

Now, of course rape is a VERY serious issue and any man who rapes a woman should pay dearly, since he proves he is scum, but the women who lie about this are just as low a lifeform. A man should get a hefty sentence for his crime, BUT, IMO, if a woman IS caught lying about rape, SHE should recieve the SAME penalty that her SUPPOSSED rapist would get. Overlooking her false accusations is DANGEROUS!

As for this woman, I hope if she was raped she can get justice....

Ah, football players

In Australia, there's a transgender woman. Highly intelligent and with the morals of a banana.

She sent to the US for her fake boobs, because they don't make them that big in Oz, apparently. And she LOVES those boobs, lol ! She struts them

There are a number of NZ and Aussie footballers who hope she keeps her private video collection private

She gets bored easily you see. 'Dated' (horizontal position) one member of a NZ football team. Then moved on to another and another. Her goal (she bores easily, as I've said) was to have them all inside a week. But that got boring too. So she decided to liven it up -- something she does fairly often. Three in a bed .. why not four ? Or more ?

The muscle-bound, dim-witted footballers were no match for her. But then, they weren't used to a woman who was once an extremely fit guy and cynical as hell.

' Come on, I've done my share. Now it's your turn to entertain me ' she said, shaking her massive breasts in encouragement (and taking the lens cap off her camera).

Who knows .. maybe she'd always seen herself as a porn producer ?

Whatever the case, she recorded the lot, all the while purring suggestions at the sweaty heap on the floor. Suggestions such as, ' Hey Rocky, why not put your penis in .... Go on. He wants it, don't you Andy?' These guys were so aroused, they were game for anything .. anything.

She showed several people once, for a laugh. For at least ten minutes, you could hear a pin drop. All those butch footie players 'pleasuring' each other inventively, for posterity ...

She turned to her friend, a part time working-girl who'd been there during some of the action, and said, ' They didn't need much encouragement, did they ?'. And her friend replied dryly, ' Not at all .. '

I just know she would still have that video, probably copied to disc long ago. And she does perform for the camera herself and has a list of contacts longer than her legs

One day, a bunch of teenagers will come bounding in from a day of surfing and, with pizza boxes spread around, will stick some porn in the player, just for laughs. If any of those kids' fathers played football back in the late 90s, their kids might end up discovering just how close Dad was to his big, butch team-mates

Originally posted by rcwj75
I have no idea if THIS case is true or not, only she and the men involved know for sure, but I can tell you, I have seen a few FALSE rape cases at work. And in my 8+ years in law enforcement, the number one reason women lie about being raped: they were cheating and felt guilty, or knew the current bf/hubby was going to find out they were cheating and instead of losing what they got, they chose the rape route in hopes to save face.
**This answer is NOT my opinion, in my department, 4 of 6 women admitted THIS was why they lied**

Only something like 1% of rape reports end up in convictions.. these usually seem to involve bruises etc. to show it was forced without doubt. For example a woman might say "no" but be to afraid to physically resist and fight back.
False reports of rape and convictions of rape a different things.

Now, of course rape is a VERY serious issue and any man who rapes a woman should pay dearly, since he proves he is scum, but the women who lie about this are just as low a lifeform. A man should get a hefty sentence for his crime, BUT, IMO, if a woman IS caught lying about rape, SHE should recieve the SAME penalty that her SUPPOSSED rapist would get. Overlooking her false accusations is DANGEROUS!

I agree that false accusations over any crime should be punnished and compensated.

As for this woman, I hope if she was raped she can get justice....

I think thats why she came forward to the media.. no-one has said it did not happen.