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Census GPS-tagging your home's front door

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posted on May, 16 2009 @ 03:54 PM
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Coordinates being taken for every residence in nation

According to an online Yahoo program, the Global Position System coordinates for the White House, probably one of the best-known publicly owned buildings in the world, are 38.898590 Latitude and -77.035971 Longitude. And since you know that, it's no big deal for the White House to know the coordinates for your front door, is it?
Some people think it is, and are upset over an army of some 140,000 workers hired in part with a $700 million taxpayer-funded contract to collect GPS readings for every front door in the nation.
The data collection, presented as preparation for the 2010 Census, is pinpointing with computer accuracy the locations and has raised considerable concern from privacy advocates who have questioned why the information is needed. The privacy advocates also are more than a little worried over what could be done with that information.
www.worldnetdaily.com...


Something tells me this is not just a Census issue. Why change the way the Census is taken? Is this another way to apply more control over residents? It seems to infringe upon our rights of Privacy.

It’s getting easy to connect the dots on the grand scheme of things. Can we remove these from our doors and are they visible to the naked eye? It seems big Brother now can track our homes.

I am strongly opposed to federal databases, except to track criminals. Why the average citizen?

Court rules secret GPS tracking without a warrant is now legal

dvice.com...


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posted on May, 16 2009 @ 04:51 PM
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Hi, you may be interested in an existing thread about this here:

Why are they tracking every American household by GPS?

Interesting stuff eh?



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 05:09 PM
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This makes me angry.

Sorry for the one-liner.



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 05:11 PM
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Why does this make you angry?

(not sorry for 1 liner)



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 05:22 PM
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Read the other thread. This isn't what some people are trying to make it out to be. This is simply a more technologically efficient way to do the evry same thing that has been done since the 1990 Census.



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 05:36 PM
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I had a Census worker knock on my door this week. She asked if my front door was, in fact, my front door. I told her to get to the front, she had to walk to the back yard, through a locked gate. She didn't appreciate the humor.
Then asked me if there was another building, "a mother-in-law" house she called it. What? A guest house... No there isn't. Thanks, and she left.

Strange encounter, but did not attach anything to my door, nor had she a GPS unit that I could tell.

What with Google earth, and all other maps programs...why would it be a big deal to get coordinates on your front door, anyway? I do not feel cause for concern. Enlighten me?



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 07:30 PM
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And why exactly would they need to track our houses? Its not like they move. A simple street address is all the information needed to determine lat and lon so what is the point of a GPS tracker?



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 08:22 PM
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That is a funny story. I had a guy pull in to my driveway and park at the end because he was scared of my dog. He asked me if this was a single family dwelling. I wanted to lie but didnt.

I heard some people speak of putting some sticker on mailboxes. It reminds me of Nazi Germany.



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by zombiemann
And why exactly would they need to track our houses? Its not like they move. A simple street address is all the information needed to determine lat and lon so what is the point of a GPS tracker?


No I dont think the houses will be moving but they will correlate with the new Real ID card information and other digital Federal database info. I think it’s almost communist. Skip the socialist stuff.



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 10:42 PM
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ummm how about no scott

i mean that would cost immeasurable amounts of money, not to mention every new house built would need them implanted. And keep in mind houses dont move, im hoping we can develop the tracking technology and link it with medical purposes so if a person starts to ahve a heart attack it can auto notify emergency services. thing is though as far as putting them on houses now that is just silly, why would you think that at all?



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by tigpoppa
ummm how about no scott

i mean that would cost immeasurable amounts of money, not to mention every new house built would need them implanted. And keep in mind houses dont move, im hoping we can develop the tracking technology and link it with medical purposes so if a person starts to ahve a heart attack it can auto notify emergency services. thing is though as far as putting them on houses now that is just silly, why would you think that at all?


I forgot the guys name who turned down Obamas offer due to new changes in the Census. There is more going on than meets the eye.

Many people do not give out their personal info to Census takers. Some refuse to participate. I think there is a legal consequence for not doing so.

The Postal Service has been instructed to give the names to the Census Bureau of any who did not fill out the Census form. Most likely including the GPS coordinates.

It still bothers me they delayed posting the Census for a year. I wonder what the motive is behind that? I need some 1940's info off of it.



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 10:43 AM
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I had a woman from the census come knocking on my door a few weeks ago for the first time in the four years I've lived at my current address. Asked the typical questions and stood there for a few minutes pushing buttons on a little hand-held device but she didn't attach anything to my door or mailbox that I can see. Could be her little machine had GPS in it, but I don't know for certain.

The one good thing about them getting GPS coordinates for my house, if they did, and not me is while they house may stay put that doesn't mean I will.



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 11:21 AM
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I've heard of the different colored stickers. as well.
Someone mentioned that they were color coded for newspaper delivery, one color for the entire week, another for week=end , and yet another for Sunday only... I do not read the paper, but do buy the Sunday one for the comics and crossword puzzle.

I have not seen any on the mailboxes here in Tucson, maybe for the larger urban areas? IDK



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 11:30 AM
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That's a good point to our houses being non mobile but we are. I cant help but wonder if these GPS coordinates arent directly linked to other personal information that is stored in a federal database.

They want to include ammo purchases, passports, drivers licenses, social security number, medical data, banking info all in to some federal database. They will soon know everything about us, if they dont already.



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by pyrytyes
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I've heard of the different colored stickers. as well.
Someone mentioned that they were color coded for newspaper delivery, one color for the entire week, another for week=end , and yet another for Sunday only... I do not read the paper, but do buy the Sunday one for the comics and crossword puzzle.

I have not seen any on the mailboxes here in Tucson, maybe for the larger urban areas? IDK


Well some of these RFID chips are barely visible to the naked eye. I filed a homestead declaration on my house. I dont appreciate the government representatives coming on my land and propery and tagging it. Whether by GPS or any other method.

I need to put up more no trespassing signs that say trespassers will be shot, rather than prosecuted.



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 03:42 PM
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May I suggest: Trespassers will be shot
(the cute ones will be violated)
Survivors will be shot twice.

Or Proponent of GUN CONTROL
I HIT WHERE I AIM!

Should deter the unwelcome...at least make 'em think twice.



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 04:07 PM
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I wonder if back in the day when the census started if people got all spooked by it?
With such large population in the USA now, this seems to be the easiest way to take a census and a greener way.
I don't understand all of the paranoia. Its just a easier and more green way to obtain the census.

I don't see people saying they are taking personal information like names, birth date's, jobs, income, legal residency etc.

We are in the year 2k + , I would hope they have moved beyond the abacus to count on.

But I guess there are some people who will see a conspiracy in everything.



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 05:11 PM
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Good point... 2K+.

The changes we have witnessed since the turn of the century (Y2K), seems like everything has been turned upsidewaysover. Have you noticed that?
Good, then you know of which I speak.

We are now in an almost, alternate existence. Sometimes, you just have to play along, and see where things will lead. Otherwise, seriousness, or rather overt seriousness, will drive you mad...and I don't mean angry.
It is best therefore, as you have already exhibited, to maintain level-headedness, lest you walk in circles.


Seriously, the census is out for an accurate count. I do not know what the FRID tagging is all about, but will wait and see what develops.



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by pyrytyes
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May I suggest: Trespassers will be shot
(the cute ones will be violated)
Survivors will be shot twice.

Or Proponent of GUN CONTROL
I HIT WHERE I AIM!

Should deter the unwelcome...at least make 'em think twice.


I need to make a sign like than and post it every 50 feet along the road. Also add hunters stay off my property of you will be fair game. Yes I like that.



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by sheila947
I wonder if back in the day when the census started if people got all spooked by it?
With such large population in the USA now, this seems to be the easiest way to take a census and a greener way.
I don't understand all of the paranoia. Its just a easier and more green way to obtain the census.

I don't see people saying they are taking personal information like names, birth date's, jobs, income, legal residency etc.

We are in the year 2k + , I would hope they have moved beyond the abacus to count on.

But I guess there are some people who will see a conspiracy in everything.


I'm all for green just as long as it doesnt infringe upon my privacy. The postal service has orders to give the names of those who live at the GPS homes. This is only one part to a bigger conspiracy.



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