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UFO whistleblower dies on stage.

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posted on May, 16 2009 @ 12:56 PM
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Just trying to find out a little more about Dean Warwick as well as the author of the material James Casbolt. Both seem legit to me.

Here is a link to an ATS thread about James Casbolt

This is from Project Camelot

Warwick had promised interviewer Dave Starbuck that he would make some very significant announcements at the conference concerning the murder of Bobby Kennedy, the identity of the “Anti-Christ”, and the connection between underground bases and hundreds of thousands of missing children.

Warwick had reached the point in his lecture when he stated he would next reveal who was behind Bobby Kennedy’s murder. However, he never did. Instead, he said, “Bear with me for a moment”, leaned with his left elbow on a nearby table with his right arm across his body, and then fell flat on his face. Shortly afterwards he was pronounced dead.


This from a blog

Dean Warwick was a civil engineer who worked on several bridge and tunnel projects for the American government. In the 60’s he was very close to the presidents, vice-presidents and Congressmen.




posted on May, 16 2009 @ 01:14 PM
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A lot of misinterpretation going on here.

The surrenders were because of no food. The majority of his front line defense where farmers (not sure what they farmed but they were referred to as farmers) forced to fight hence they would give up on the spot because the majority were not military second they needed food which they weren't given.

After capture they would fight over the food they were given assuming there wasn't enough for everyone which was quite common on the front lines due to the amount of people surrendering.

The republican guard on the other hand would fight to the death because they were well supplied by Saddam and had no reason to surrender. They were not an easy task to contend with although the media tries to play it off that way to make the US military look invisible, propaganda anyone?

Now the audio waves did not affect the brain directly it affected the internal organs to include the ear canal. Which may result, in the brain, as a panic mode, similar to water boarding, causing assumptions to be made it affected the brain directly which at that time it did not. I say at that time because I don't know what they use today or if it was modified in some way.

Asking for sources will get you none as this comes from the horses mouth of someone who was there and was on the front lines and I'm not sure how or if it is classified. Not to mention I'm not about to place a source in danger or violate their confidentiality. Maybe it's not classified but not about to risk it.

So ya they did use the audio waves as a weapon and at that time I know it was classified just not sure if it still is.



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by karl 12

Whistleblower dies in suspicious circumstances
On Stage at UFO Conference

When Dean collapsed on the floor a woman witnessed a man with dark hair slip out of the hall. She followed this man who then proceeded to walk down the stairs whistling merrily to himself, get into a car and make a phone call. He was then seen laughing down the phone to whoever he was speaking to. Who walks out of a hall whistling happily to themselves and then starts laughing down the phone after a man has just collapsed and stopped breathing on stage?



Assuming for a second that this story is true (which I personally do not believe for a second to be the case) this "operative" deserves a special mention as the most laughable, foolish and stupid professional killer in the whole history.
He could not refrain from laughing, could not wait until he turned a corner before making a call, he could not detect a woman following him, I wonder if he was at least smart enough not to pee in his own pants each and every time he needed to do so.
And they let him use super-secret weapons? He looks too inept even for throwing stones!
Mario



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[edit on 16-5-2009 by Mario78]



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by liveandlearn

Just trying to find out a little more about Dean Warwick as well as the author of the material James Casbolt. Both seem legit to me.



cabolt legitimate ???????????????

please share with us your reasons for making this claim

because casbolt is one of the biggest walts out there



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 02:20 PM
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This is a good case of a story getting a fact checking done to it. Many different reasons as to why this character died, depending on what site is visited.

The problem with ufology is every thing is believed before it is fact checked. This is not a good way to find out what is going on.



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by trusername


Do any of you remember when all those microbiologists were dying / being murdered. It was a few years back and a whole bunch of top scientists / researchers were killed or died mysteriously in one year. It was even on ATS

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I guess ufologists are discovering the same risks of a science becoming more popular and legitimate.




However in this case, his 'fate' seems to have been sealed when he stated that he was going to give the name of the one being the Antichrist.
To my knowledge, he didn't even mention UFO's during the moments before he collapsed.



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 02:41 PM
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Again just because she said she saw a supposed "assassin" it doesn't mean that it was a CIA hit. Honestly it would have been easier to kill him while he was sleeping. Maybe he just had a heart attack? Maybe the CIA engineered some new donuts that have an insane amount of fats and carbs that caused him to have a heart attack?



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by karl 12

Whistleblower dies in suspicious circumstances
On Stage at UFO Conference



www.metatech.org...


in the article it says :


Dean Warwick- “I want to come to something which has perturbed me for some time and that's to do with the killing of the children. A release from the department of statistics of the United states government said that every year 150,000 children will in the United states, never be heard of again. Three months later I got a similar report which said that in central and southern America there will be 350,000. I did mathematics, I specialised in pure and advanced maths in university. That's not a coincidence. We’ve got 0.5% of the population in North America, 0.5% in central and southern
America, that can’t be a coincidence.”



I did not do mathmatics in University, but I think that it should say 0,05%
A bit stupid for a typo in a piece like this.

The man that went away and laughed in his car could maybe not have known that somebody died.

But is still a thrilling story.

'There's 20 to 25,000 children a year in the UK’
Here the same mistake is made. Uk population is like 60 milion and some. 0,5% would be 300,000 children. And it says 25,000.

And which moron grandfather would say this to his grandchild


(earlier in the interview Dean had said his grandfather had warned him that when Dean was older he would come across a secret and it would destroy him)

I am sorry, a visionary grandfather with a taste for bad drama??!


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posted on May, 16 2009 @ 02:53 PM
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The last Saturday October 7th was in 2007 which makes this news over 1 1/2yrs old. The website source is charging $5.00 for membership because of 'hard times'. I've read other sources about this with several conflicting points such as what he was talking about and what he was going to reveal. The man in the dark suit laughing in his phone is just to much, but I suppose it could have happened. And this could have been someone simply dying of a heart attack because it was his time. Happens everyday.
However after reading all the evidence I am leaning 55% to 45% toward this being something to further investigate. I wonder if an autopsy was done with toxology being a priority. Sounds like this could very well be some type of poisoning.



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 03:02 PM
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For those who think it was a hit, it makes sense to do it in front of an audience. Audience = witnesses, witnesses eliminate suspicion. If he was say alone at home, it could become a "suspicious death" with no witnesses.

It would also send a clear message. 2 birds one radio wave.


Not saying I believe this at all. But it is certainly a possibility if this type of weapon is real. Look at past assasinations, many public officials have been done in front of an audience. TPTB seem to enjoy public killing.



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 03:02 PM
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I meant he seems to be who he says he is. I don't know about other claims he makes. I found nothing indicating he was not in intelligence. That being said, it seems he would be dead now.

I have no idea what a 'walt' is.

Edit to say I now know what a 'walt' is... a Walter Mitty.

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posted on May, 16 2009 @ 03:16 PM
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I think a big misconception of people is that the "powers that be" really give a damn about exposure or not. They know they have control of everything and it would take a catastrophic break down in operations to expose them. So do they care about killing someone in public? NO they don't cause they know we( the public) can't do anything about it anyways.



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 03:52 PM
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If this man was assassinated, I think it's more to do with the underground bases and missing children than anything UFO related.

This reminds me of the MKUltra and all those kidnapped children in cages that a supposed manchurian candidate turned informer told the story about.

Also another possibility is if the man had health problems that the stress of giving such an important speech could have set a stroke or heart attack off.

Either way, it's too bad that we'll never find out what information he had.

Surely the guy made copies of his information and sent it to friends or hid copies somewhere? Wonder if members of family were ever raided or had visits from strange men in suits after his death?
I'm sure either way, he's family would know if his death was suspicious or not??



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 04:10 PM
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I'm guessing it was the excitement/stress of being on stage, combined with an unhealthy lifestyle led to the guy having a heart attack. It's probably pretty uncommon for people who suddenly decide to do public speaking, suffer from heart attacks. Was the guy fat?

I try and remember Occam's razor whenever possible, heart attack is more likely explanation than a secret CIA death ray.



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 04:35 PM
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Originally posted by DoomsdayRex
Not to sound like a cynic, but this sounds made up. It is nonsense.

First, what about it points to "an E.L.F (Extremely low frequency) weapon. These E.L.F weapons can be set on a ‘Delta wave‘ and are able to shut a person’s nervous system down"?

Second, if someone wanted to assassinate him, why do it in such a public fashion? A potential assassin could have attacked at any point. Why wait until he is coming on stage, why allow yourself to be seen, and why behave in such a suspicious fashion?

Sorry to say, this is nothing more than paranoid speculation.

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Because it makes it look like he died of natural causes instead of dying in his home suspiciously because there are witnesses to see it.



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 04:54 PM
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E.L.F. weapons are very plausible. Okay, got that out of the way.
This story seems more than likely bull but very well could be true i guess?
James Cabolt is not legit. The Dean Warwick guy seems to be. I dunno what i think so...



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 05:03 PM
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He could have just died from sheer stress. Imagine knowing all that and what will happen when you "Blow the whistle" to you and the ones you love. Everything is not a conspiarcy ....but the timing is odd on this one.



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 05:30 PM
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Originally posted by DoomsdayRex


Sorry to say, this is nothing more than paranoid speculation.

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Couldn't agree more.

You'd think they'd be more clever to knock him out before he even left home, so why on stage? It wasn't meant to "send a message to truthers" mainly because it just seemed like a natural stroke or heart attack.

Whatever, I call FAKE.



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 05:44 PM
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Has it occurred to anyone else that the reason they might want to assignation him in public like that.. Was to send out a message or a statement to any potential whistle blowers making them think twice before trying to leak away information



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 05:55 PM
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Originally posted by DoomsdayRex
Not to sound like a cynic, but this sounds made up. It is nonsense.

First, what about it points to "an E.L.F (Extremely low frequency) weapon. These E.L.F weapons can be set on a ‘Delta wave‘ and are able to shut a person’s nervous system down"?

Second, if someone wanted to assassinate him, why do it in such a public fashion? A potential assassin could have attacked at any point. Why wait until he is coming on stage, why allow yourself to be seen, and why behave in such a suspicious fashion?

Sorry to say, this is nothing more than paranoid speculation.

[edit on 16-5-2009 by DoomsdayRex]


Well, you do sound cynical, and cynicism and skepticism are essential.

We hear a lot about the bad, bad "debunkers" on this forum. Skepticism is essential to discovering the truth, not just confirming what you want to believe.

Yes, so an assassin would wait until his victim is on stage, and then run off laughing...

What baloney. Ok, let's try again.

[edit on 16-5-2009 by Electro38]




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