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reply posted on 16-5-2009 @ 04:35 PM by masonwatcher
reply to post by 6EQUJ5



Nope, there is no room to speculate without facts. If someone suggested you have been to a boot camp, perhaps you should ask them to put up or shut up. I would not let that one go had it happened to me on the day.



reply posted on 16-5-2009 @ 04:51 PM by 6EQUJ5
reply to post by masonwatcher



You are aware of the definition of speculation, right?


reply posted on 16-5-2009 @ 04:57 PM by masonwatcher
reply to post by 6EQUJ5



Perhaps I didn't make myself clear and I mistook you for the OP. I meant to say that if an official made an unsubstantiated statement, I would latch on to it in the politest way and invite further comment and use that information against them. I wouldn't speculate on my assumptions.

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reply posted on 16-5-2009 @ 05:20 PM by Zot Twady
This story sounds like classic paranoia, but it's fairly mild at this point.

In my experience the story doesn't really sound like chronic paranoid schizophrenia....it's kind of believable based on some of the stories that have hit MSM in recent years.

I had an experience with a friend who developed a mental illness and his reality was much more fantastic than what I'm reading here.
Some examples:
1. People were 'dressing up in stage makeup' and posing as him in porno movies.
2. These movies were being filmed underground in makeshift cave basements located under the residences of people he knows.
3. He dug for weeks under his home attempting to infiltrate the systems of tunnels that he was convinced existed.
4.Hells Angles and White Power affiliates were involved.
5. The HA infected him, with Hep C.
6. Government agents were following him conducting mind control experiments, becasue he was 'gifted' with psychic powers.
7. Alien Agents implanted devices in his teeth.
8. He repeatedly acquired new vehicles and tore the dash apart in every one of them looking for bugs.

I could go on...it was freaky and I would often wake to the dogs barking at 3AM to find that he was hunkered down in his car outside of my home. Being too close to a mentally ill person can be scary.

To the OP:
As others have said, you're going to be dismissed as paranoid by many.
The only hope you have of convincing more people is to gather evidence that support your claims.
Your story fits the profile of paranoia, and once you start taking action to gather proof, you will have crossed a potentially dangerous threshold, but it may be your best chance of regaining your sanity.

I wish you well.


reply posted on 16-5-2009 @ 05:21 PM by masonwatcher
reply to post by amyfriend





but my common scense is I dont buy any of this.


Common sense is exactly what it says on the tin; it is wholly based on common assumptions devoid of an experience or information you have never had or been aware.

The fact is not everyone is the same as you and some are capable of immense evil. Further still, there are people who are motivated to pursue various activities that may be altruistic or downright disgraceful. The fact that you may not be in either camps it does not mean there are people who spend their time harassing people.

In my earlier comment I suggested that it may not be federal officials harassing the OP but conducted by people motivated by a cause or money. This happens and is document in community based harassment campaigns.

Calling someone delusional or paranoid is too easy and loses its value when it is unsubstantiated. It is like calling a woman being raped by her husband delusional before such a thing became common knowledge and against the law.

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reply posted on 16-5-2009 @ 05:26 PM by masonwatcher
reply to post by Zot Twady





Some examples: 1. People were 'dressing up in stage makeup' and posing as him in porno movies. 2. These movies were being filmed underground in makeshift cave basements located under the residences of people he knows. 3. He dug for weeks under his home attempting to infiltrate the systems of tunnels that he was convinced existed. 4.Hells Angles and White Power affiliates were involved. 5. The HA infected him, with Hep C. 6. Government agents were following him conducting mind control experiments, becasue he was 'gifted' with psychic powers. 7. Alien Agents implanted devices in his teeth. 8. He repeatedly acquired new vehicles and tore the dash apart in every one of them looking for bugs.


Did the OP make any of these claims?

I suggest that they are your embellishments on the thread.


reply posted on 16-5-2009 @ 05:29 PM by mystiq
reply to post by masonwatcher



The problem with this kind of thing is the secrecy in which it occurs. These guys are bullies. So are the corporations and governments. The only approach is to be assertive and loud and get an increasing number of people, as many as possible to begin with, like a dozen or more. Then get publicity. Even if they succeed in making you seem like you were touchy and misguided, they won't do the same thing. It will clear the ground so to speak. I know from dealing with some local thugs my ex had and they people whom the brow beat. It was the women, loud and to the point, that got rid of them. For some reason the men didn't seem to know how to and listened to this kind of pecking order. Not a chance! It takes public awareness and those are a little more cooperative and angry at this kind of thing occurring in the world their children are inheriting. This won't always be just women. But women are an asset that way, at least from my experience. They're bullying doesnt hold up under the microscope so thats the best way. And noise flushes them out.

If everyone understand, we wouldn't have this nwo stuff. We need a lot more people willing to stand up and make some noise!!!!

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reply posted on 16-5-2009 @ 06:10 PM by clcreek
reply to post by QuestForFreedom


You say that you have no proof...

come on, it would be easy to set it up so that you can build a case. Either your story isn't true, or you have absolutely no creativity, common sense, or desire to stop this harassment. I personally believe that you are telling a story because it would be so easy to turn the tables enough to gather a bit of evidence to prove your dilemma, especially if these "agents" are so bold as to make themselves known to you.

I dare you to U2U me the truth, please ... I won't tell anyone...
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