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reply posted on 22-5-2009 @ 01:54 PM by Hemoglobin
reply to post by QuestForFreedom



no government is going to incur "incidents" on you that occur every month or every few months to "drive you insane" if this was real it would be much more in your face obvious. you sir are probably in need of medication


reply posted on 23-5-2009 @ 03:24 AM by alienanderson
Originally posted by Hemoglobin
reply to
post by QuestForFreedom



no government is going to incur "incidents" on you that occur every month or every few months to "drive you insane" if this was real it would be much more in your face obvious.


I'm not sure if I agree with that blanket statement

If the OP really was the focus of some group's attention (not saying he is, but if he was) then subtle incidents to push him over the edge and appear crazy would be an effective method to render him incapable of functioning and requesting outside support from others


reply posted on 23-5-2009 @ 02:12 PM by alienanderson
Originally posted by resistor
QFF, pay no attention to the paid disinfo artists.


You're paranoid. People on this board are giving advice. Whether that advice is right (info) or wrong (disinfo) I bet you a large amount of money that no-one in this thread is being PAID to get the OP into a hospital

Do a search on gangstalking, targeted individuals, cointelpro, etc, and make use of the many resources you find.


I have read a fair bit of information on gangstalking and targetted individuals (TIs) in the last few months, trying to make up my mind whether it is a real phenominon or not.

Most of the stories and websites seem to be full of people who are paranoid and/or mentally unbalanced. When they get together via the net and disuss the issue it can reinforce their beliefs and then the delusions can REALLY spiral out of control. I don't think that it is healthy.

I have read a small number of stories of mind control experiments that are convincing (sorry I did not keep a record of the links) and I am sure are genuine.

COINTELPRO is a different matter all together - this is a known and proven government project.

Don't get me wrong - I am under no illusion that government surveillance, experimental technology, mind control and harassment does not go on, I just don't believe it is as widespread as you would think

The OP may be tragetted but at the moment I just don't think he is. Some solid video or audio evidence might help convince me.

Before I finish let me point you to a few youtube clips. I spent hours and hours a few months ago trawling youtube for gang stalking clips.

The first is the best video of its kind (in my opinion) and had me believing in gang stalking:

Gang Stalking

Then I found these types of clips which seem to be paranoia:

Gang Stalking perp tries to make accident

Here's a pretty good example of someone that I believe is suffering from paranoia for you to consider:

PERPS TALKING ABOUT MY IMPLANTS ETC

The lady in question Leslie Crawford is a prolific youtube video blogger who may or may not be a genuine targetted individual

She is convinced she is being harassed but I cannot find any evidence in her 170+ videos

If you got some time check it out and see what you think:

lesliecrawford's Channel

Like I said - I fully believe that the government is capable of harassing people in all sorts of ways imaginable. But I am not sure if it is actually happening to all of the people that claim this.

And no, I have not been paid to type this post

[edit on 23/5/2009 by alienanderson]


reply posted on 23-5-2009 @ 03:35 PM by masonwatcher
reply to post by alienanderson



I must congratulate you on your thorough research and you are correct on several issues. The most sobering aspect is that there are genuinely ill and distressed individuals making outlandish claims and jumping on the bandwagon to explain away their predicament.

At the core of organised stalking is the effect it has on sane individuals. It does reduce them into paranoia. Some people do get very upset and appear to be delusional and the likes of you stick the boot in because you are so cocksure of your opinions.

People's rights are being violated, and you do not have the right to dismiss their cries on a public forum. If you are sure of your judgement of this issue fine but you will have to provide evidence of your claims. Leslie Crawford is an individual making her own claims and has no bearing on the OP's.

This kind of statement will not do;



Like I said - I fully believe that the government is capable of harassing people in all sorts of ways imaginable. But I am not sure if it is actually happening to the people claiming this.


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