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A Compelling Question About UFOs

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posted on May, 15 2009 @ 07:47 PM
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If we take into consideration that some UFOs are actually extraterrestrial interplanetary space vehicles visiting this planet on a regular basis, most wouldnt argue that the technology used to cover vast space and time must be exponentially further advanced than the means in which we travel today.

Some of the issues they have to overcome include, but are not limited to:

-Time versus the distance traveled
-Fuel or Energy to cover said distance
-Sustenance to maintain the occupants over said distance
-Craft ability to operate under multiple vacuums and atmospheres

In reference to the latter of these issues i ask this....

How could such advanced craft, with unimaginable technology crash so often here on earth? Why can they navigate huge distances thru space only to crash on this little rock?

Here is a short list of "alleged" downed saucers along with a few possible explanations




1. July 4, 1947 (Roswell, NM) Most famous of the UFO Crash cases and most thoroughly investigated. William (Mac) Brazel, a local rancher, reported hearing a loud explosion during the night of a thunderstorm. The next day Brazel found a debris field on his ranch. Word reached Major Jesse Marcel at the Roswell Army Air Field and he investigated. Marcel reported finding a debris field scattered over a mile. The material recovered from the debris included small beams with heiroglyphics on them; metal that was as light as balsa wood, but couldn't be dented with a sledge hammer, although flexible. The material would not burn. The scrap material was flown to Carswell AFB in Fort Worth. Witnesses have described a second site where the main body of the craft was found along with the bodies of its crew.

2. Oct, 1947 (Cave Creek, AZ) Not much is known about this crash. There is still one living witness in Prescott, AZ.

3. Mar 25, 1948 (Aztec, NM) Though still considered a hoax by most researchers, others have left the door open on this one. A new first-hand witness has been found in Las Vegas. Story is that a large disc said to be 99 feet in diameter came down in Hart Canyon and that a military recovery team was dispatched from Durango, CO.

4. Mar 1948 (Socorro, NM) A second craft came down in this vicinity that was much like the Aztec craft according to an ex-army private.

5. Aug 14, 1952 a disc crashed near Ely, NV, and 16 bodies were recovered.

6. May 20, 1953 (Kingman, AZ) An engineer who reported this event said 1 or 2 bodies were recovered. He rode a bus with darkened windows from the Nevada Test Site to the crash location. The disc was found embedded in the sand and canted at an angle. His job was to determine the disc's trajectory and velocity. There have been rumors of additional crashes including a controversial report of a South African Mirage jet fighter shooting down a disc over the Kalahari Desert in Botswana on May
7, 1989. There are also reports of a disc crash in Chihuahua, Mexico on August 25, 1974 and one in Megas Platanos on September 2, 1990 in central Greece. Few of these reports have been investigated as thoroughly as Roswell, but that does not mean they should be dismissed. An FBI MEMO from March 22, 1950 alludes to 3 saucers recovered in New Mexico. This memo also states that it was believed that a radar station interferred with the saucers' control mechanisms causing them to crash. If that is true, then such a discovery would suggest the idea of a weapon that could be used to bring saucers down.

7. In Beaver Oklahoma crash sight (alleged) believed to be the cause or effect of phenomena known as the "Beaver Sands Portal." A supposed dimensional door way to other worlds first experienced by native Americans of the area, and then white men starting with Coronado's Expedition who camped near the sand dunes. Green light and eerie sensations on the skin mark this experience, along with a small number of disappearances in to the Portal spread out over the last 4 centuries.




posted on May, 15 2009 @ 07:51 PM
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Good question...
Maybe they aren't perfect (of course)... They call it "human error" here, well, isn't "alien error" possible?



posted on May, 15 2009 @ 07:52 PM
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April 17, 1897 - Aurora, Texas A mysterious airship is said to have crashed in this town, exploding into many small fragments. Reportedly, the occupant was child-size and greenish, and the craft contained papers covered with heiroglyphics. The pilot's body is supposed to be buried in the local cemetery. Although the case was widely regarded as a hoax, new investigation brought to light a peculiar alloy that was eventually analyzed by the McDonnell Aircraft Company.

Dec. 22, 1909 - Chicago Six years after Kitty Hawk, newspapers from New York to Chicago were astounded by national reports of a huge airship flying across the nation and seen by thousands. It crashed west of Chicago, but was never found. The story was front-page news in the nation's major newspapers.

1933 or 1934 - Ubatuba, Brazil Witnesses on a beach are said to have seen a disc dive and explode, showering the area with silvery fragments of highly pure magnesium.

May, 1947 - Spitzbergen, Norway A report by journalist Dorothy Kilgallen stated that British scientists and airmen were excavating the wreckage of a mysterious flying ship. The Swedish military acknowledged its extraterrestrial origin and reported 17 bodies were found. The story appeared as a tiny blip for only one day in the U.S. news media before it was silenced by the military. I personally saw this news story years ago.

July 2, 1947 - Roswell, New Mexico The most famous and thoroughly investigated by journalists, this is the crash that launched Majestic-12. It was the first and only time the U.S. government publicly admitted it had recovered a crashed flying saucer. Within hours, the craft was whisked off to Wright-Patterson AFB and a new cover story emerged, claiming it had been only a weather balloon. In recent years, the officer responsible for that cover story has recanted. Three or four humanoid bodies were recovered; one was alive for a short time.

February 13, 1948 - Aztec, New Mexico Three radar units tracked a falling UFO. Secretary of State George C. Marshall requested a search party be dispatched from Camp Hale in Colorado. A helicopter team found a crashed 30-foot disc 12 miles northeast of Aztec and recovered 2-12 badly burned humanoids. The disc is stored in Hangar 18 at Wright-Patterson AFB near Dayton, Ohio.

August 1948 - Laredo, Texas Four officers witnessed the crash of an object and the recovery of bodies 38 miles south of Laredo, Texas, in Mexico. The information came from an NBC affiliate in Chicago, who received it from a source in Army security.

August 19, 1949 - Death Valley, California, Two prospectors named Mace Garney and Buck Fitzgerald claimed to have watched an object crash in the desert. It was a 24-foot disc. The story appeared on page 13 of the local Bakersfield newspaper the next day. Before 1950 - Mexico Roy L. Dimmick, sales manager for the Apache Powder Company of Los Angeles, spoke with a man from Mexico and another from Ecuador who had seen a disc crash near Mexico City.

April 1950 - Argentina Mr. E.C. Bossa found a strange disc and four small dead pilots in a remote region of Argentina. He returned with a friend the next day and found only a pile of warm ashes. A cigar-shaped object was seen briefly as it flew overhead at a high altitude.

1953 - Brady, Montana Mr. C.M. Tenney, returning from Great Falls to Conrad, saw an oval object that followed his car while balls of fire fell all over the road. Later that day he was phoned by a colonel from Malmstrom AFB who asked him to come to the base at 10 a.m. the next day. He was escorted to a windowless room inside a fenced-off compound and asked to sign a statement. While doing so, he says he saw two men carrying large laundry bags containing humanoid bodies.

May 21, 1953 - Kingman, Arizona A USAF veteran claims to have participated in the recovery of a crashed aluminum-like disc impacted 20 inches into the earth. It was oval, 32 feet wide.



posted on May, 15 2009 @ 07:56 PM
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Mid-1950s - Birmingham, Alabama

When a disc crashed near Birmingham, the area was cordoned off and humanoid bodies were flown to Maxwell AFB, according to a man who claims to have flown the helicopter with the bodies to a waiting aircraft.

Spring 1954 - Mattydale, NY

In this suburb of Syracuse, at 3 a.m. on a Sunday, an information specialist and his wife saw a 20-foot-wide object being examined on the ground by several men who were taking pictures. The next day an officer told them the event was a military secret. Later, police denied the whole incident ever took place.

1959 - Frdynia, Poland

An object was reported to have fallen into the harbor. Divers recovered pieces of shiny metal, which was examined by the Polytechnic Institute and Polish Navy. Some material was reportedly lost. Several days later a small humanoid was found on a nearby beach; its remains were sent to the Soviet Union.

March 1960 - New Paltz, NY

Local law enforcement authorities captured a small humanoid outside his craft while two copilots escaped. The alien was turned over to the CIA and died 28 days later.

January 1967 - Southwest Missouri

A Mr. Loftin found a 40-inch disc and gave it to the U.S. Testing Company for analysis.

November 9, 1974 - Carbondale, NJ

A glowing object fell into a small lake outside town. Three teenagers saw it fall at 7:30 p.m. on a Saturday. They observed a yellow-white glow under the water that shifted to a point 25 feet offshore. The boys were kept in a police car for three hours while a number of vehicles with floodlights and cranes removed a disc-shaped object and put it into a van. The following Monday, a railroad lantern and battery were recovered from the lake and officials called the whole thing a hoax. Hoax? Or cover story?

May 17, 1974 - Chili, NM

An Air Force team allegedly removed a 60-foot-wide metallic object from an impact area and moved it to Kirtland AFB.

May 6, 1978 - Padcaya, Bolivia

A large luminous object crashed on a 13,000-foot mountain. An expedition of soldiers and scientists was dispatched to the site, but was delayed by bad weather. They found nothing.

1978 - Soviet Union

After a collision with a Soviet fighter plane, a disc-shaped object fell into the ocean off Finland, where it was recovered with humanoid bodies - by a Soviet salvage team.

[edit on 15-5-2009 by imeddieone4202003]



posted on May, 15 2009 @ 08:08 PM
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Why are you assuming that reaching intersteller travel means the craft don't go down every now and then, or often.

Maybe on some planet somewhere there is a culture who fanatically worship their fearless 'explorers'. Who knows, maybe the mastery of intersteller travel is a very dangerous, long and hard-traveled road.

Maybe thousands of pilots and exploratory minds died in hostile, foreign lands...

...like all those thousands of Europeans who set relativly blindly off into the vast expanse of the worlds oceans.

Space would be a pretty big ocean, and mastering it may be something we are watching another race struggle to do?



[edit on 5/15/0909 by spines]



posted on May, 15 2009 @ 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by spines


Space would be a pretty big ocean, and mastering it may be something we are watching another race struggle to do?



[edit on 5/15/0909 by spines]



Interesting concept, just because they can get here doesnt mean they are great at it, a learning process.



posted on May, 15 2009 @ 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by imeddieone4202003
How could such advanced craft, with unimaginable technology crash so often here on earth?


Maybe because they don't have to cope with the rubbish weather conditions out there that we have down here.

All that way in the vast vaccum of space without a hitch to be met with rain, fog, hail, lightning, wind, snow and all other manner of meteorology....not to mention being shot at and bobbing and weaving the latest military fruit.

Bummer!

Great until they get near the earth's surface....then it's like mr bean in a dodgem car.

Welcome to earth, did you bring your umbrella?



posted on May, 15 2009 @ 11:11 PM
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Originally posted by nerbot

Originally posted by imeddieone4202003
How could such advanced craft, with unimaginable technology crash so often here on earth?


Maybe because they don't have to cope with the rubbish weather conditions out there that we have down here.

All that way in the vast vaccum of space without a hitch to be met with rain, fog, hail, lightning, wind, snow and all other manner of meteorology....not to mention being shot at and bobbing and weaving the latest military fruit.

Bummer!

Great until they get near the earth's surface....then it's like mr bean in a dodgem car.

Welcome to earth, did you bring your umbrella?


I dont feel weather is the sole reason, i mean our conventional aircraft, even civilian airplanes are hard to bring down with weather alone, i mean ultra light planes can sustain flight and interplanetary craft cant?



posted on May, 15 2009 @ 11:17 PM
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Maybe because some get shot down?



posted on May, 15 2009 @ 11:20 PM
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They don't crash.........period. most of the 'crash' stories involve secret-ops stuff-the aliens never crash.



posted on May, 15 2009 @ 11:25 PM
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Originally posted by starfemme1
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They don't crash.........period. most of the 'crash' stories involve secret-ops stuff-the aliens never crash.


Do you feel we have never recovered an extraterrestrial if the aliens never crash?



posted on May, 15 2009 @ 11:31 PM
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Originally posted by imeddieone4202003
i mean ultra light planes can sustain flight and interplanetary craft cant?


Aeroplanes are designed for flight within earth atmosphere. Interplanetary craft aren't.



posted on May, 15 2009 @ 11:34 PM
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Flying to another galaxy isn't as easy as setting off on an autopilot vacation along a steady road . There must only be one way to do so , and that my friends is vortex hopping , aka dimension skipping.

Its' the only theory that makes sense.

Edit: Maybe Earth isn't the easiest place to 'skip' to , hence some don't make it and crash

[edit on 15/5/2009 by nasacarl]



posted on May, 15 2009 @ 11:41 PM
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"Bleep, bleep..you forgot to fit any brakes..bleep, bleep!"



posted on May, 15 2009 @ 11:45 PM
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Lmao. Precisely.

" This isn't Nebula , where the hell are we.. omg a shark! " *crash*

[edit on 15/5/2009 by nasacarl]



posted on May, 15 2009 @ 11:56 PM
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Originally posted by nasacarl
Flying to another galaxy isn't as easy as setting off on an autopilot vacation along a steady road . There must only be one way to do so , and that my friends is vortex hopping , aka dimension skipping.

Its' the only theory that makes sense.

Edit: Maybe Earth isn't the easiest place to 'skip' to , hence some don't make it and crash

[edit on 15/5/2009 by nasacarl]


Care to school me a little bit on what vortex hopping is? why do you feel its the only way?

[edit on 15-5-2009 by imeddieone4202003]



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 12:07 AM
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Of course their crafts can go down. Also we have some interference that has been reported to cause some of the crashes, and there are reports of our governments shooting some of them down. There is an enormous difference between the crafts that they travel distance in, what I call the deep space crafts, which are huge, and the smaller, lower tech crafts they use in our atmosphere, which are somewhat riskier, but it enables them to do their frequent activities with less detection overall, unless they want to be detected much of the time anyway. As well, it allows control over what technology they will be willing to part with in case of an event out of their control, such as the loss of a craft. In other words, we don't get their higher technology, but mainly their lower tech.



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 12:16 AM
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[edit on 16-5-2009 by tim1989]



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 12:16 AM
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We've heard about the UFO's using a anti-inertia/ g force technology that is how they are able to reach such high speeds instantly while doing right hand turns etc. What I find interesting, is when a UFO crashes and when alien bodies are recovered (supposedly) some are found dead. I wonder how the aliens died, did they die from the crash? I ask because, inside the UFO there is supposed to be no inertia or g force. So if a UFO crashes into the ground, mountain or whatever, shouldn't the occupants be safe from you know...? What I mean is if you drive a car with no seat belt and hit a wall, you will fly out the _ If the UFO crashes into a wall, apparently you wouldn't have that effect. So, they must die not from the initial collision, but die from when the craft is destroyed because of the impact.

Back on topic, we don't know how many UFO's we've recovered from crashes. We don't know how often UFO's visit. So we can't come up with a statistic that shows how many % of UFO's crash. It could be really small like 1% of UFO's crash or it could be much higher. We just don't know. It could be because of driving/ flying errors, weather or just problems with the UFO. Even though their technology may be much more advanced than ours, we have to remeber nothing is perfect. The aliens technology would have flaws, just like the aliens themselves will have flaws. It's certainly a hard question to answer.

[edit on 16-5-2009 by tim1989]



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 12:17 AM
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If they were not ET crash flights and only Human flights they
would be scheduled and monitored and have crash experts,
MIB and all kinds of ambulances to support the details.

And all data would be suppressed to be sure.






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