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Originally posted by Imago Dei
Originally posted by Welfhard
reply to post by orangetom1999
I had a much longer post here before I realised that I only need to say one thing to point out the stupidity of you mindset equating the school of science to a religion.
Is Science to be the new faith?
[Contradictory statement.]
No matter how you slice it, bring in politics all you like, Science is the study of Nature. Science explicitly demands that faith play no role in it's methodology.
Quod Gratis asseritur, Gratis negatur.
[edit on 21-6-2009 by Welfhard]
In actual fact, if one where to observe the discovery of the phenomenal numeric pattern uncovered in the greek and hebrew biblical texts by Ivan Panin and some others, (as I have) one will clearly see an irrefuteable scientific and mathmatical marvel that can not be denied that a superior mind of mathmatical genius wrote the Holy Bible, to the point where faith is no longer required.
However, sadly this remarkable discovery seems to do more for the faith of believers than it does to convince unbelievers, and it broke Ivan Panins heart that even the Christian Leaders of the day, back in the early 1930s discounted his lifes work of some 50 years built upon the 40 plus years of Westcott and Hort, as unimprotant.
Suffice it to say that when light came into the world, the world loved darkness. So when unbelievers chose to ignore the facts, one is left with the only decision that is logical and rational and that is to leave them be.
However dear brothers and sisters in the faith, be encouraged that Holy Scripture is indeed irrefutebaly the words handed down by allmighty God, over 1600 hundred years in 66 and I and convinced that that God in His wisdom used this man Ivan Panin mightely because he knew that in the midst of the ever increasing disinformation being scattered asunder about the bible, that believers would need such overwhelming evidence in these last days so as to have their faith in His blessed word bolsterd and unshaken. And may that be the case with you until the end of your earthly days.
God Bless You all.
Correction to the scribes of bible the 26, not 22, my mistake.
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
reply to post by firegoggles
A book is not proof either...it can be a tool but its not proof that can hold ground in a true debate.
Someone can accept it as truth...but that still does not make it so.
The lie was that you needed to be saved....that you werent worthy with just your pure honest heart.
I believe Jesus taught and believed we are all daughters and sons of God.
I understood the Holy Holidays and understood how the OT tied to the NT. I had accepted Jesus as my sacrifice as was thankful every day for this gift.
Originally posted by orangetom1999
reply to post by LeoVirgo
I understood the Holy Holidays and understood how the OT tied to the NT. I had accepted Jesus as my sacrifice as was thankful every day for this gift.
LeoVirgo,
I dont celebrate any holydays. None of them..not even a birthday.
For they are all His days...not mine
I am not under the bondage of the Olde Testament though the Olde Testament is my schoolmaster and I am not to be ignorant of it or what it teaches.
For my priesthood is not of Levi..but after Melchizedek...never Levi.
Also from the Olde Testament as well as the New Testament...chosen people do not choose..they are chosen...God does the choosing...not us. Not we..choose..but He chooses who are His....always. All of the Apostles were chosen...so too was Moses...and Paul.
He will make us acceptable..for His purposes..not ours. We do not accept anything...we are made acceptable by His will and for His purposes. For He will do His work in us for His reasons and purposes.
This is totally contrary to that taught by most churches and in bible colleges today.
For He is a Sovereign God.. and not a subject god.
Thanks,
Orangetom
[edit on 23-6-2009 by orangetom1999]