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Lenin/Stalin, Mao Zedong, Pol Pot, Kim Jong Il & Kim Il Sung... these men were essentially gods, we refer to them as dictators (gods) with totalitarian rule (church/religion), but in shorthand... they were/are gods. Atheists don't believe in god, nor believe that they are god, so therefore to claim these demi-gods and their flock are atheists, would be folly... for the ideal citizen of these regimes posses one key ingredient that allows and maintains the house of cards to stand... blind-faith. Those who question the leader/government (god/church/bible) are incarcerated/tortured/killed (sent to hell).
[edit on 18-5-2009 by The All Seeing I]
Originally posted by The All Seeing I
reply to post by orangetom1999
For clarity sake, to put what you have proposed in a nutshell, would it be accurate to summarize by the following equation?
logic/reason/science + humanism/gnosticism/communism = Atheism
[edit on 19-5-2009 by The All Seeing I]
Same with me, I began really reading the Bible, in it's entirety
Originally posted by xstealth
Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
Great find Original Poster. I myself have long considered the Holy Bible to be a fraudulent work. It is just too full of inconsistencies and hypocrisies and riddles.
On one hand you have a vain, jealous, vengeful G-d.
On the other hand you have a meek, gentle, loving, trusting, charitable Son of G-d who is simple and austere in his ways.
Some might say the first one is very similar to the State.
Most people are like that correct? If I have a girlfriend who is out whoring with other guys, I would get jealous, vain, and upset.
God has his children out worshiping other Gods, setting sin before him, and denying him.
MMM so he is not the one true god?
We are made in his image, he is a jealous God; and just because he is the supreme being doesn't make him immune to emotions.
MMM yes what a guy to follow.
God is love love is not jealous just concerned.
There is a difference between reading the Bible, and reading it with understanding. If you use a Strong's Concordance you can break some words down to the original manuscript and get a whole different meaning, the way it was intended.
The Bible is misinterpreted beyond belief, because most people won't take the time to actually study it.
Eve didn't eat an apple; there is no rapture, the earth isn't 6000 years old.
The Bible is a complete book, that has been mistranslated too often, making inconsistencies apparent.
Originally posted by undo
reply to post by MatrixProphet
jesus even indicates as much when he corrects the record regarding moses' laws on divorce. the people had been lead to believe by the time of christ, that anything, absolutely anything, that moses said, was straight from the mouth of god. in fact, sometimes, it was just moses trying to create a liveable society for their tribes.
posted by HolgerTheDane
Or maybe it was Jesus who lied when he told us not to trust Moses and his "words from God".
posted by MatrixProphet
I think that the fact that Moses received not only the 10 Commandments but over 600 laws that they were supposed to abide by, that they GOT exactly what they wanted, but they were set up to fail. Why?
Originally posted by jd140
Be honest. If the Bible is successfully debunked, where do you see the next step going?