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Abductions and evidence

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posted on May, 15 2009 @ 03:44 PM
I have read a lot of threads on people who claimed to be abducted. I am not stating that is did or did not happen, just that there is never any real evidence to back up the claim.

The one problem is that science has an answer to what is going on: sleep paralysis. There have been many experiments on the condition, and it can also be genetic which would explain why family members share an experience. With a scientific reason for these experiences on tap, why would the scientific community even contemplate there may be actual alien abductions?

Even narcolepsy is being used to explain some daytime/driving abductions. This takes a bit more to justify, but many of us have driven while extremely tired and have experienced the phenomena known as road hypnosis. Again, that does not mean abductions while driving do not happen, just that science has an explanation.

The problem is how to get scientific minds to look at the abduction phenomena without jumping to the sleep paralysis conclusion. This is the problem ufologists and researchers have, not to mention the people who have these terrifying experiences. There needs to be a way to differentiate the abduction and sleep paralysis, and one way is to find other evidence to support the abduction theory. Also, the person who claims an abduction should go to a sleep clinic where they can monitor sleep patterns. If there are any medical problems such as sleep paralysis, it will show up during the monitoring period.

Another problem is as soon as sleep paralysis is mentioned, people who claim abduction think they are being questioned as to the reality of what happened. The fact is they are correct in that evidence is needed to make such an extraordinary claim. The person who has such an experience should not be ridiculed, but treated with dignity. They should understand that all medical and other explanations for the abduction experience must be ruled out. Only then can the researcher claim sleep paralysis is not the cause of the experience.

Abductees and researchers should work together with sleep disorder specialists to rule out all other possible causes. The reality is sleep paralysis is a real disorder, while there is no smoking gun proof that abductions are real.

posted on May, 15 2009 @ 04:29 PM
I am sure many people are experiencing sleep disorders, but what about the people who disappear like Travis Walton?

Or people who have wake up with different clothes on or people who wake up with muddy feet?

The problem is that until the scientific community is prepared to take the subject seriously then it cannot be investigated seriously.

posted on May, 16 2009 @ 01:35 PM
reply to post by lightchild

Those cases are the physical evidence that is needed. As I stated in my thread, the scientific community has a proven theory to explain abductions. It is up to ufologists to show there is other evidence to show aliens are abducting people.

One could state that the people walked in their sleep or had narcolepsy. That would be the reason they were outside or changed their clothes. Some people are active when they sleep walk, and that is another proven fact.

There are many holes in Travis Walton's story, and many believe he stayed at his mother's house. She did not allow the police into her home when they were looking for Travis, so they could rule that out. I would not use the Travis Walton case to bolster the abduction theory because of all the red flags raised by the case. There are many others that are much better, and even have evidence to help them.

posted on May, 16 2009 @ 04:36 PM
I don't think there is much physical evidence for them, apart from scars that people have taken pictures of, but they dont prove much.

I guess, we just have to take peoples words for it, but it'd be nice to get some real, undesputable evidence for once.




EDIT - have you seen this thread:

Apparently he has an "alien book" but so far no pics.

Im not dismissing it yet, but unless i get pics, im not whole heartedly convinced.

[edit on 16/5/2009 by JacobNH]

posted on May, 17 2009 @ 02:22 PM
reply to post by JacobNH

The main reason for this thread is to find out a way to show abductions are real using other means. Sleep paralysis and other explanations can be used for the phenomena most people describe. There needs to be some type of test or way to show the scientific community that sleep paralysis or other explanations do not cut it.

The best types of abductions are from people who were taken from the car (or other locations) while they were awake. The best cases are the Hills, the Pascagoula MS fishermen abduction, and the New England case where four young men were abducted. (Travis Walton's story is not the best example as it is quite flawed.) It helps when there is more than one person being abducted, as their stories can be compared.

How can the researchers find a way to make the case for people who claim to be abducted from their rooms? The only way is to get the multiple abduction cases to have cameras and other devices record throughout the night, inside and out of the house. Again, this will not be an easy task, but many people believe that something terrible is happening. The least the abduction researchers should do is find a way to distinguish sleep paralysis and other problems with the possible reality of abduction.

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