[HOAX] "I will ask the General Assemly ... to Strip Israel of its Membership" , page 7

Originally posted by audas

Great so you have unconditionally admitted Im right - thanks - what else can I say , always good to be in the right and have someone acknowledge it. Apologies would be good.

secondly you have produced a docuemt, which suggests that documents were released relating to issues prior to 1948 which claim that the Arabs objected to the deivion of their state into a two parts and handed to what was a tiny Jewish minority - and if they simply had have "accepted"their fate and not protested there would be no wars - Well I am afraid that this is simply untenable to any informed person - the laws of the Geneva convention provide for armed resistance - Israel immediately engaged in expansive programmes and programmes of ethinic cleansing, (this has now been verified in numerous books which I HAVE read and you HAVE not - but you can avail yourself to them on AMAZON any time you wish to educate yourself) - further the displaced refugees have been denied to right of return which is not only a war crime but also a crime against humanity.

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Finally I have noticed you are attempting to use slightly high brow terms with me, perhaps you have a mild case of concetism, however it is well blended with sophomanyia....don't bother with trifling plays to bombastic lexiphanacism with me - my aristophrynia will simply not tolerate it......

Where do I start? Hold off on the self-congratulations.

You launch into an attempt to annihilate a brief excerpt from a provided article you apparently haven’t read which benefits from newly released documentation.

But you then go on to inform me that I haven’t read books that validate all your claims.

To the best of my ability I’ve read a broad spectrum both pro and con. The points you say are universally accepted are not. They appear in the literature which dismisses out of hand the legitimacy of Israel and it’s ongoing efforts to sustain itself in the face of unrelenting attempts to eliminate it and it’s citizenry. Conveniently ignored is a series of unsuccessful wars launched by neighbouring Arab states that began on it’s first day of existence and have never ceased. Israelis are shelled unrelentingly, subject to suicide attacks, kidnapped, attacked and murdered on the street, and you talk about crimes against humanity.

On a salient claim of yours, there had been a only a tiny Jewish minority in the region.

middleeastfacts.com...

“...according to official Ottoman Turk census figures of 1882, in the entire Land of Israel, there were only 141,000 Muslims, both Arab and non-Arab. This number was to skyrocket to 650,000 Arabs by 1922, a 450% increase in only 40 years. By 1938 that number would become over 1 million or an 800% increase in only 56 years. Population growth was especially high in areas where Jews lived.

... According to the Arabs the huge increase in their numbers was due to natural childbirth. In 1944, for example, they alleged that the natural increase (births minus deaths) of Arabs in the Land of Israel was the astounding figure of 334 per 1000. That would make it roughly three times the corresponding rate for the same year of Lebanon and Syria and almost four times that of Egypt, considered amongst the highest in the world.

... the massive increase was not due to natural births, then were did all these Arabs come from?

All the evidence points to the neighboring Arab states of Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Jordan. In 1922 the British Governor of the Sinai noted that "illegal immigration was not only going on from the Sinai, but also from Transjordan and Syria." In 1930, the British Mandate -sponsored Hope-Simpson Report noted that "unemployment lists are being swollen by immigrants from Trans-Jordania" and "illicit immigration through Syria and across the northern frontier of Palestine is material." The Arabs themselves bear witness to this trend.

....Churchill, noted in 1939 that "far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied."

Far from displacing the Arabs, as they claimed, the Jews were the very reason the Arabs chose to settle in the Land of Israel. Jobs provided by newly established Zionist industry and agriculture lured them there, just as Israeli construction and industry provides most Arabs in the Land of Israel with their main source of income today.

Malcolm MacDonald, one of the principal authors of the British White Paper of 1939, which restricted Jewish immigration to the Land of Israel, admitted (conservatively) that were it not for a Jewish presence the Arab population would have been little more than half of what it actually was.”

Your alluding to my utilization of mono-syllabic latinate vocabulary informs me you are not aware it is a somewhat mocking response to your employment of same. May I suggest it is you that suffers from the debilitating malady you mentioned?

Though so much of what you claim does not conform to any reasonable evaluation of the historical record, your theatrical and histrionic renderings are always enjoyable. I’m sure there are many who are intimidated by them.

Never surrender.

Mike

[edit on 18-5-2009 by mmiichael]