[HOAX] "I will ask the General Assemly ... to Strip Israel of its Membership" , page 4
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reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 07:25 PM by mmiichael
Well, this was useful. We got a representative sampling of who is looking for bad news of Israel and hoping for the worst.

We got to see if there are vultures out there. Plenty.

It was another opportunity for the haters to foam at the mouth some more.


The UN pretty much speaks for itself. A failed organization with half it's membership military and despotic dictatorships. Many are failed states leaders bleeding dry their long suffering populations.

Over 50 Muslim dominated countries, all against the one Jewish majority state.

The US supplies many billion annually to many of these countries, cumulatively far more than to Israel.

This does not translate to support.

Below are the voting records of Arabic/Islamic States from US State Department and United Nations records:

Kuwait votes against the US 67% of the time
Qatar votes against the US 67% of the time
Morocco votes against the US 70% of the time
United Arab Emirates votes against the US 70% of the time
Jordan votes against the US 71% of the time
Tunisia votes against the US 71% of the time
Saudi Arabia votes against the US 73% of the time
Yemen votes against the US 74% of the time
Algeria votes against the US 74% of the time
Oman votes against the US 74% of the time
Sudan votes against the US 75% of the time
Pakistan votes against the US 75% of the time
Libya votes against the US 76% of the time
Egypt votes against the US 79% of the time
Lebanon votes against the US 80% of the time
India votes against the US 81% of the time
Syria votes against the US 84% of the time
Mauritania votes against the US 87% of the time


The UN seemed like a good idea after World War. It fails to do what it set out to. It is now an embarrassing club with mostly thug leaders taking every opportunity to demonstrate their hatred for those who have succeeded through fair representation of their people.

No matter what horrors the cutthroat-run nations enact, no one tries to throw them out of the UN. They'd all vote en masse against it.


Mike


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reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 07:38 PM by RivenNight
Originally posted by sueloujo
Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
Originally posted by imeddieone4202003
Its amazing the blind eye the world seems to turn when it comes to Isreal. When will this quasi nation finally be held accountable?



And isnt it funny how you turn a blind eye to the truth that Isreal isnt the enemy, but the evil that comes from nations like Iran who funds groups like HAMAS, who always attack Isreal. Maybe if Hamas went away the Arabs in palastine will get there own nation.

They already had their own nation till Israel decided to persecute them and imprison them.


The generally astounding level of ignorance displayed in this forum, aside, this comment was such an easy one to pick out that I felt compelled to correct it.

There has never been a "Palestinian" nation. Nor was there even a group of people called "Palestinians" before the creation of the State of Israel. The land that now makes up Israel was originally a part of the Jewish nation of Judea. Skipping forward a couple of thousand years, and the land was divided between Lebanon in the North, Egypt in the South, and Syria and Jordan to the East. These countries owned the land that Israel now owns, and the "Palestinians" are, in fact, Egyptians, Syrians, Jordanians and Lebanese. The land then briefly became part of the Palestinian mandate, the entirety of which the British planned to give to Trans-Jordan. The mandate went on to form most of the modern State of Israel.

This is a slightly simplified version of events, but an accurate one, nonetheless. One thing is certain, there has never been a Palestinian nation, nor is there really such a thing as a "Palestinian".

Now, let's see something else, hands up who hasn't worked out that the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion are a blatant plagiarism of a 19th Century attack on Napoleon III?

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[edit on 15-5-2009 by RivenNight]


reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 07:42 PM by sueloujo
reply to post by RivenNight



Are you sure? Dont deny Palestine a right to live and a right to their land.

The maps tell the truth. quite historical arnt they?


whatreallyhappened.com...


reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 07:42 PM by masonwatcher
reply to post by mmiichael



mmiichael thanks for posting a small sample of countries that have developed hostility against the US at the UN on the basis of its support of Israel despite its criminal activities.

Unfortunately the US has abundant its own interests while helping Israel conducts mayhem in the Middle East and other parts of the world. You will find most people do not blame the US because it has become saturated with Israeli firsters dual passport holders and agents of foreign influence.

This situation is alien and a diametric contrast to the original state of affairs between the US and the ME and the rest of the Islamic world that grew organically from the virtues of both societies.


reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 07:53 PM by RivenNight
Originally posted by sueloujo
reply to
post by RivenNight



Are you sure? Dont deny Palestine a right to live and a right to their land.

The maps tell the truth. quite historical arnt they?


whatreallyhappened.com...


Not even vaguely historical when presented in such a piss-poor and out-of-context way. How about just telling me which part of what I said was factually incorrect, rather than just referring me to some ill-researched and clearly biased webpage?

Seriously, the first thing that page says is, "The truth is that far from being the poor victim it likes to portray itself as, Israel is in fact the most aggressive and belligerent nation in the region, having invaded pretty much everyone it shares a border with".

The reality is that every major war the State of Israel has fought since its creation has been one of defence. In 1948, 1967 and 1973 the Arab world tried to commit, in the words of one Egyptian newsreader in 1967,
"genocide", and all Israel did was defend itself.

Such an obviously untrue and biased statement at its start tells you everything you need to know about the rest of the page.

[edit on 15-5-2009 by RivenNight]


reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 08:15 PM by exile1981
reply to post by Maxmars



Yes it is a different committee but according to the official UN site it's the only item from them for that day.


reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 08:28 PM by finemanm
reply to post by RivenNight



You’re wasting your breath - err... typing.

The Pro-Arab/Muslim contingent on ATS will never accept the truth about Israel, its origins, the events leading up to its creation, and the invasions it had to fight off repeatedly.

You will never get them to admit that there is no such thing as a "Palestinian." In 1947, if you called someone a Palestinian, you were referring to a Jew in British controlled Palestine. Arafat invented the term Palestinian when referring to Arabs.

Gaza should be part of Egypt... as it was pre-1967, but Egypt won't take it back. The West Bank - excluding Jerusalem - should be given to Jordan/Syria. There, now we have a real FOUR state solution.


reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 09:32 PM by visible_villain
reply to post by masonwatcher


UN Secretary General: "I will ask the General Assemly ... to Strip Israel of its Membership"

When the Secretary General of the UN makes a speech before the General Counsel this becomes a matter of 'public record' ...

There's absolutely no evidence on the UN website this speech was ever given.

The pdf document linked on page 1 is obviously a fake ...

Did all of you 'solid contributors' just fall off a Christmas tree ?

Gimme a break ...


reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 10:57 PM by audas
Originally posted by RivenNight
Originally posted by sueloujo
reply to
post by RivenNight



Are you sure? Dont deny Palestine a right to live and a right to their land.

The maps tell the truth. quite historical arnt they?


whatreallyhappened.com...


Not even vaguely historical when presented in such a piss-poor and out-of-context way. How about just telling me which part of what I said was factually incorrect, rather than just referring me to some ill-researched and clearly biased webpage?

Seriously, the first thing that page says is, "The truth is that far from being the poor victim it likes to portray itself as, Israel is in fact the most aggressive and belligerent nation in the region, having invaded pretty much everyone it shares a border with".

The reality is that every major war the State of Israel has fought since its creation has been one of defence. In 1948, 1967 and 1973 the Arab world tried to commit, in the words of one Egyptian newsreader in 1967,
"genocide", and all Israel did was defend itself.

Such an obviously untrue and biased statement at its start tells you everything you need to know about the rest of the page.

[edit on 15-5-2009 by RivenNight]


Please - I have a Masters in International Relations, have several undergraduate degrees and am continuing with PHD in negotiations - don't even consider telling me I am right or wrong - you are talking pure fabrications.

The modern state as a concept was not established until - at the very earliest - the treaty of the Peace of Westphalia - 1648 - to consider it before then displays a profound lack of the very basics of international realism, or the historical record - to lay claim to the modern state of Israel through biblical lineage is the most disingenuous thing I have seen any one attempt to claim.

Palestine was a protectorate of the united kingdom, THE BRITISH MANDATE OF PALESTINE - it was a country and recognized - for this not to have been the case would mean every person earth was stark raving mad EXCEPT YOU - which is clearly NOT the case - hence I think we can all assume who has no idea what so ever or - has a very clear agenda in which case should be removed from posting on this site as it is PURELY TROLLING and nothing else.



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