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Food Companies Are Placing the Onus for Safety on Consumers

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posted on May, 18 2009 @ 04:13 PM
Yes it does look like lax standards in food safety have more than paved the way for the implementation of Codex. Although I don't want to jump to that conclusion just yet, I must admit that it looks to be the case. Pretty much everything I've seen so far seems to point to it.

posted on May, 18 2009 @ 04:49 PM
One of the most simple solutions: Ban in the import of any food that is grown and exported from the US.

Grains, wheats, some fruits, most vegetables, all beef, all pork, etc...

Just stop importing. We import low quality foods, export our higher quality foods, and use the low quality crap in the congealed nastiness that is our processed foods.

Simple solution. People won't get sick, dogs and cats won't die, and we can eat our processed foods with an added piece of mind.

posted on May, 18 2009 @ 04:55 PM

Originally posted by Rockpuck
We import low quality foods, export our higher quality foods, ...

Ummm... so poor countries around the world are eating your good quality food and the richest country in the world is reduced to eating crap?

Not sure how that works.

There is no poor quality food grown in the US then?
Anything not grown in the US is somehow inferior?
Everything the US does is better than everyone else?

This kind of superiority complex astounds me.

Let me be ironic and hypocritical and say we ban all the GMO crap being foisted upon the world by US agribusiness.


posted on May, 18 2009 @ 05:43 PM
reply to post by Rockpuck

No, really, do to the tampering of the foods in the US with GMO other countries around the world are not so willing to take them at all.

Most of the big name of processed foods in the US are all into GMO to the point that you have to go searching for natural ingredients in foods now a day.

I know because I shop by name brand.

This is a list of food products and brand names that are GMO and the ones that are not GMO.

posted on May, 18 2009 @ 06:27 PM
reply to post by mystiq

Here's your answer...


You want a pie? BAKE ONE! It doesn't take that long.

Seriously... learn to cook... not only is it better for you, it tastes a ton better too AND it's fulfilling. When I'm stressed to my end points I go spend $10 and make an amazing meal for some people... it's the cheapest way to remove depression.

posted on May, 18 2009 @ 06:49 PM
The seeds you use are going to modified, GM, and not heritage. They will be locked away in the vaults. The ones you get to use, or grow your own garden with, or plant, will be deadly to human body. You're giving this advice to a someone who was raised on an orchard/farm, and worked in family farmers market for years, and has grown my own personal gardens, canned, preserved, dried, and baked for years. I make wonderful pie crust by the way! Absolutely love tart(ish) strawberry/rhubarb pie. This isn't going to help us much soon, if this law passes, and not only all the seeds are controlled, but the vitamins and health products are outlawed or given in small overpriced amounts by doctor's prescription like is happening in Germany currently as we speak.

Edit to add: Of course, thats because this article worries me alot as its a preliminary paving the road for future implentation of the codex.

[edit on 18-5-2009 by mystiq]

posted on May, 18 2009 @ 07:03 PM

Originally posted by Rockpuck
One of the most simple solutions: Ban in the import of any food that is grown and exported from the US.

Grains, wheats, some fruits, most vegetables, all beef, all pork, etc...

Just stop importing. We import low quality foods, export our higher quality foods, and use the low quality crap in the congealed nastiness that is our processed foods.

Simple solution. People won't get sick, dogs and cats won't die, and we can eat our processed foods with an added piece of mind.

The exchange of foods that grow at different seasons throughout the year has improved our healthy choices, and its something that I'm sure that our leaders, who probably are foaming at the mouth in anticipation of codex legislation, would not be quick to do. However, the codex is pretty well planned to be promoted and on a global scale. Theres nothing wrong with buying local wherever possible and importing, providing good nutritional standards are used, with preference for heritage foods high on the list. The sad part is, local farms and self sufficiency, even in countries with much arable land, such as the US and Canada, has been greatly diminishing over time. This has all been a well orchestrated plot.

[edit on 18-5-2009 by mystiq]

posted on May, 18 2009 @ 07:22 PM
reply to post by Gools

Perhaps I should have said with specific countries that have known ... issues.. with their regulation ..... abilities.

China, would of course be a perfect example. Why do we import wheat, corn and other foods that are grown here in the US?

Poison in baby formula, poisoned dog food that killed dozens, perhaps hundreds of animals in the US, contaminated processed foods would just add to the list.

This is the point I am trying to make.

posted on May, 18 2009 @ 07:23 PM
It seems to me that even when food inspectors are in larger numbers as in Canada, there is much lax behavior occurring, which has resulted in food safety being questioned.

and a newspaper article saying food inspectors can't cope with the workload:

Executive Summary

In the summer of 2005, the Corporate Planning, Reporting and Accountability Branch of the Canadian Food Inspection Agency (CFIA) was requested to review CFIA's Codex activities, given the prominent role of Codex in setting the international regulatory framework for food and the contribution of CFIA to this process. Since 2002, CFIA has invested approximately $2.2 million in Codex activities including travel and attendance at Codex committee meetings, hosting, and coordination.

Based on the work conducted, the review noted that the CFIA's participation in Codex enables the development of strong, coherent science-based regulations that support CFIA corporate objectives and facilitate international trade. In addition, CFIA's participation in Codex has resulted in tangible benefits for Canada, however additional efforts could further demonstrate the benefits of CFIA's involvement.

With special note to the words of Codex having the prominent role in setting international regulatory framework. It seems to me there is a direct link between food safety regulations and the codex. In the Summary part point 2 says:

As current Chair of the Interdepartmental Committee on Codex (IDC), should work with the other members of the Committee to prepare a more comprehensive strategic plan that reflects Canada's priorities.

posted on May, 18 2009 @ 07:29 PM

Originally posted by miraclerock
Food has been scary for awhile, I have been very careful about what I eat after I found out about aspartame and msg. This just solidifies it for me, when they can't even account for the ingredients they put in the food its time to find something else to eat. With some of the artificial flavors and additives in processed food I'm not even sure I would call it food anymore.

On the plus side local food tastes better on a whole different level than most people are used too
. After tasting some I would never go back and it is healthier too. I'm lucky to have a big space for a garden and am near a large CSA. People in big cities would probably have a hard time finding good food, unless they can afford to pay a lot for it.

How can you tell if a food has msg? I don't recall seeing that on nutrition labels.

What does it mean by processed food? Are all foods at store processed?

[edit on 5/18/2009 by Jessicamsa]

posted on May, 18 2009 @ 07:37 PM
Here is a website for Michigan State University, Institute For Food Laws and Regulations:
Their active link for the codex is: Codex Alimentarius - The World Food Code
After you click on the link you find:

The objective of this course is to familiarize the students with the history, development and workings of the Codex Alimentarius Commission in formulating and harmonizing food standards and ensuring their global implementation.

I'm so totally amazed that a nazi serving his sentence for crimes against humanity could so influence the UN as to adapt his plan for control of the world's food and thus, total life and death control of all its citizens. The heritage seeds are being locked into vaults in Iceland and other locations, while the world is being handed over to be contaminated by Monsanto and the madmen controllers.

posted on May, 18 2009 @ 07:48 PM
Concerning Fritz ter Meer, there's quite a lot of information on him and his life's work here:

The most powerful German economic corporate emporium in the first half of this century was the Interessengemeinschaft Farben or IG Farben, for short. Interessengemeinschaft stands for "Association of Common Interests" and was nothing more than a powerful cartel of BASF, Bayer, Hoechst, and other German chemical and pharmaceutical companies. IG Farben was the single largest donor to the election campaign of Adolph Hitler. One year before Hitler seized power, IG Farben donated 400,000 marks to Hitler and his Nazi party. Accordingly, after Hitler's seizure of power, IG Farben was the single largest profiteer of the German conquest of the world, the Second World War.

He was the head of this corporations and spent time after the Nuremberg Trials for his crimes.

On April 14, 1941 , in Ludwigshafen , Otto Armbrust, the IG Farben board member responsible for the Auschwitz project, stated to his IG Farben board colleagues, "our new friendship with the SS is a blessing. We have determined all measures integrating the concentration camps to benefit our company."

The pharmaceutical departments of the IG Farben cartel used the victims of the concentration camps in their own way: thousands of them died during human experiments such as the testing of new and unknown vaccines.

There was no retirement plan for the prisoners of IG Auschwitz. Those who were too weak or too sick to work were selected at the main gate of the IG Auschwitz factory and sent to the gas chambers. Even the chemical gas Zyklon-B used for the annihilation of millions of people was derived from the drawing boards and factories of IG Farben.

Just fifteen years after they were convicted in the Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal, Bayer, BASF and Hoechst were again the architects of the next major human rights offences. In 1962, they established the Codex Alimentarius Commission. (Remark made by the Dr. Rath Health Foundation)...

The deceptive title "Codex Alimentarius" is no accident. It was devised by the same companies and indeed the same individuals, who gave the Auschwitz concentration camp inmates the deceptive slogan "Arbeit mach frei" ("Work makes you free"). (Remark made by the Dr. Rath Health Foundation)

posted on May, 18 2009 @ 08:20 PM
reply to post by mystiq

It is just another sign of the times,mystiq; I am waiting for the surgeaon general to announce that living is hazardous to your health.

I also think we should focus on growing our own food as much as possible and everyone had better start paying attention to what is being allowed in our food chain supply, for the misuse of anti-biotics and deliberate over use of growth hormones is taking it's toll on the end recepient; US.

Excellent post, my friend.


posted on May, 18 2009 @ 08:59 PM
reply to post by mystiq

"Let the buyer beware".

It is not the food companies job to ensure my safety. It is my job. Personal accountability. This one concept is where America has strayed the furthest (and created the greatest damage) from our original charter.

"Let the buyer beware."

I is time that we got back to something more natural. Local gardens, etc.

And to think, our first lady was raked over the coals for DARING to have an organic garden. Go figure.

posted on May, 19 2009 @ 07:45 AM
reply to post by Jessicamsa

Because the food industry no longer use the world MSG, they use other terminologies that sound harmless enough to the consumer while using MSG in the products in the US, BTW MSG is still widely use in the US.

Food label names that always contain some MSG:

monosodium glutamate, hydrolyzed protein
monopotassium glutamate, textured protein
glutamate, hydrolyzed oat flour
glutamic acid, yeast nutrient
gelatin, autolyzed yeast
calcium caseinate, yeast extract
sodium caseinate, yeast food
Accent Glutavene,
Ajinomoto (in Oriental foods)

Food label names that often contain MSG, or create MSG during processing:

malt extract, carrageenan
malt flavoring, bouillon
barley malt, broth
maltodextrin stock
whey protein, natural beef flavoring
protein isolate, natural chicken flavoring
protein concentrate, natural pork flavoring
protein fortified flavoring
pectin, natural flavoring
protease enzymes, seasoning
enzymes, soy sauce
protease, sauce extract
enzyme modified fermented

If what you are buying have more names in the label that you can read or pronounced, Is not good for your health.

Be a savy buyer and always check your food labels.

The True Food Shopping Guide

Go behind the label and get the facts on genetically engineered foods

MSG: For you and me?

[edit on 19-5-2009 by marg6043]

posted on Nov, 14 2009 @ 03:00 PM
Interesting thread. I see the original thread starter has been banned..oh noes.

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