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Mr. & Mrs. Obama pay homage to Lucifer

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posted on May, 15 2009 @ 09:25 PM
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Wow, Saul Alinsky! Haven't thought of him in years. His book, Rules for Radicals (1971) is a good read for those born after 1971 to get a flavor of those times.

I found this a read.

In the 70's I knew a wonderfully ordinary looking couple, very sweet and moral, who had a shrine to Satan in their bedroom closet. They also slept under a pyramid. They also had fun backyard get togethers...food, music, friends. I guess religion was more of a private thing back then.


I think Saul meant that the middle class had the power to change things in America. Maybe people should have paid more attention to him, because after he died, the middle class in America was robbed of their wealth and power. Maybe we need Saul's words more than ever to encourage us to take back the power of the middle class. Otherwise, all America will see is the light switched off as our remaining power is carried out the door.

Good for the Obamas to have read his book!




posted on May, 16 2009 @ 07:03 AM
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posted on May, 16 2009 @ 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by Iamonlyhuman


Talk about racist...


i think your misunderstanding the point

the point was that 65%+ of the USA is white, therefore they have the power to change the system


would it be equally racist if i said in China that Asian Chinese have all the power?

Im afraid neither are racist but are demographic Realities



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 10:51 AM
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Maybe this holds some meaning to the black/red dress MO wore?





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posted on May, 16 2009 @ 10:58 AM
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And those three colors, red/black/green are also the Kenyan flag's colors.




I've noticed all of the marketing for 'Obama' goods (sneakers, etc) are done in black and red.




posted on May, 16 2009 @ 11:00 AM
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AND.......... the cover for Saul Alinksky's "Rules For Radicals"....... is also
done entirely in hard red and black.




Coincidence? Dunno.



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 11:11 AM
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Alinsky's Son: He learned his lesson well




Saul Alinsky’s son: “Obama learned his lesson well” Author Judi McLeod Bio Send a friendEmail Article broken watermains Restore our Constitution By Judi McLeod Tuesday, September 2, 2008 Saul Alinsky, Barack ObamaIn Artful Dodger style, Barack Obama, plays down his mentorship with Communist author Saul Alinsky.

But Alinsky’s son, L. David Alinsky, credits Obama for “learning his lesson well” from the Communist guru. Indeed, Alinsky Jr. who credits his late father for the success of last week’s Democratic National Convention, may have done something that Obama’s detractors couldn’t: blown the cover on the presidential hopeful’s communist leanings. No one can blame Alinsky for the pretentiousness of the Ancient Greek Temple from which Obama addressed plebes, or for the tacky neon colours on display at the Pepsi Centre, but it was Alinsky who wrote Rules for Radicals, the bible of the far left. Says Alinsky’s son L. David Alinsky of his father’s influence at the Dem Convention: “ALL the elements were present: the individual stories told by real people of their situation and hardships, the packed-to-the rafters crowd, the crowd’s chanting of key phrases and names, the action on the spot of texting and phoning to show instant support and commitment to jump into the political battle, the rallying selections of music, the setting of the agenda by the power people.”

“The Democratic National Convention had all the elements of the perfectly organized event, Saul Alinsky style, the Communist guru’s son wrote in a letter published yesterday in the Boston Globe. The Artful Dodger may be less than pleased that he has been pegged as a Saul Alinsky Poster Boy by the guru’s own son. “Barack Obama’s training in Chicago by the great community organizers is showing its effectiveness,” Alinsky Jr. wrote to the Globe. “It is an amazingly powerful format, and the method of my late father always works to get the message out and get the supporters on board. When executed meticulously and thoughtfully, it is a powerful strategy for initiating change and making it really happen.
Obama learned his lesson well. “I am proud to see that my father’s model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday.” Alinsky should be reminded that the West has stared down communism everywhere it has raised its hideous head. influencing a Democratic convention from the grave pales in comparison to the results that followed President Ronald Reagan’s famous words, “Mr. Gorbachev, take down this wall.” The commonsense and freedom-loving Gipper would have chuckled at the audacity of Obama’s Ancient Greek Temple stage setting and would have told Obama what he told the world: “All great change in America begins at the dinner table.” Reagan also said: “I have seen the rise and fall of Nazi tyranny, the subsequent cold war and the nuclear nightmare that for 50 years haunted the dreams of children everywhere. During that time my generation defeated totalitarianism. As a result, your world is poised for better tomorrows. What will you do on your journey?” “Alinsky considered himself a realist above all, the ultimate pragmatist.” (American Thinker, Aug. 30, 2008). “As a confirmed atheist, Alinsky believed that the here and now is all there is, and therefore had no qualms about assorted versions of morality in the pursuit of worldly power. He didn’t coddle his radical acolytes or encourage their bourgeois distinctions between good and evil when it came to transferring power from the Haves to the Have Nots. Alinsky saw the already formed church communities as being the perfect springboards for agitation and creating bonds for demanding goods and services.” Obama followed the same path.
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posted on May, 16 2009 @ 12:22 PM
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Nice post Bombeni. The pretense of being Christian got Obama elected. What were the chances for a Muslim/Marxist? A Luciferian? I think we've had a few. Obama has had his share of blatantly occult moments. (Not that Bush and Clinton did not.) The columns at the convention speech forming the "Temple of Obama". Covering the IHS for his Georgetown speech. How could we expect one savior to share the stage with another? I wonder, will they shroud "Touchdown Jesus" at Notre Dame?



Little by little, the Illuminati bankers are dropping their mask and revealing the evil agenda behind current events. What is called "progressive" and "liberal" is in fact satanic. - Henry Makow Ph.D.


Lucifer's Rebellion

The problem is Obama's Christian pretense. The problem is Obama's actions did not jive with his promises nor his affiliations and some saw this but most ignored it. How could this handsome, well-spoken, young man be anything but what he claims? His limited "body of work" should have been his downfall. But he benefited from both poor alternatives and poorly funded alternatives.

To my mind there are no greater rivals than Christianity and Socialism. Either God is God or government is God. Pick your poison.

Obama's Religious Ruse



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 01:15 PM
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NMC, that's a brilliant clip you've posted. Very enlightening. Thanks for that.

It mentions Alinsky's atheism. For the record I am what many would call an atheist. I prefer secular humanist as "atheist" has taken on a negative connotation. It's also likely a little residual Catholic guilt! Ha! It's kind of sad that I have to mince words but that is the world we live in. While Alinsky might have felt freed to take advantage of others by his unbelief, I feel more obligated to protecting the rights of others by thinking this is all we likely have. And so I would like to pontificate that folks should be judged by their deeds and not by their labels.



posted on May, 16 2009 @ 02:00 PM
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I agree with this post. Politicians are definitely satan worshipers, it explains a whole lot to say the least.

It is also interesting how in the last 10 years, thanks to the internet, all the secrets of the elite are coming out, among a sea of BS of course...but nonetheless....

you think something monumental will happen during the Obama administration? I think yes. Only time will tell...



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 08:02 AM
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Of course Obama and company are serving the god of this world (Satan). That’s the only way you get into positions of power and influence in this world. Same goes for the Bush’s, the Clinton’s, etc. Not all actually realize who and what they are serving, but some most assuredly do. Daniel 10 gives a good description of how spiritual forces control the governments of the world. In Matthew 4 Satan offers Jesus ‘all the kingdoms of the world’. Jesus did not laugh in Satan’s face and proclaim himself divine, but rather rebuked him with scripture. Jesus knew very well that Satan is the god of this world. God gave man freewill and dominion over this planet. We in turn have given that dominion to Satan. There will always be those who will serve Satan an so insure that he continues to control the governments of this world, but that need not mean that he controls you. We must be in this world for now, but we need not be of it.

Sermon off.

And in case you don’t know the origins of the word government, it comes from the Greek govern (to steer or control), and the Latin menta (the mind). Well, that’s as close as I can get without searching it out anyway, and I’m about to go back to bed.



posted on May, 17 2009 @ 07:37 PM
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Yes I am in total agreement with you. The Quran also states this information, most notably warning man of the 'one eyed deceiver'- most muslims have taken this into literal account thinking that the antichrist will have one eye, but I am sure I need not say more about that...

Also, the Quran speaks of jinns, which are different being than us, are able to see us but we cannot see them (unless they want us to), they are on a different dimension than us.
Many people believe that these entities are reptilian shape shifters, which I also concur with. It also says that Iblis was not an angel, but rather a jinn, that turned evil and became satan. Check out the "The Arrivals" or "The antichrist dajjal will be a reptilian shapeshifter|". Those 2 documentaries on youtube are absolutely incredible.


Peace to All
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posted on May, 20 2009 @ 08:26 AM
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Originally posted by desert
Wow, Saul Alinsky! Haven't thought of him in years. His book, Rules for Radicals (1971) is a good read for those born after 1971 to get a flavor of those times.

I found this a read.

In the 70's I knew a wonderfully ordinary looking couple, very sweet and moral, who had a shrine to Satan in their bedroom closet. They also slept under a pyramid. They also had fun backyard get togethers...food, music, friends. I guess religion was more of a private thing back then.


I think Saul meant that the middle class had the power to change things in America. Maybe people should have paid more attention to him, because after he died, the middle class in America was robbed of their wealth and power. Maybe we need Saul's words more than ever to encourage us to take back the power of the middle class. Otherwise, all America will see is the light switched off as our remaining power is carried out the door.

Good for the Obamas to have read his book!


Maybe I misunderstood but I thought Alinsky abhorred the middle class, and meant only to use them as a stepping stone.



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 08:41 PM
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We have to consider the time frame of Alinsky's comments. The middle class back then (1960's) was under assault from even their own children.
Not only did they see the world around them changing (religion, race relations, e.g.), bi-polar (peace and war waged at the same time), but their own children calling them decadent, bourgeoisie, materialistic.

And the middle class was a white institution then. And, unlike today, the middle class was the class that could save money, versus, a lower class which was either constantly in debt or could never earn enough to save. Money is power.

As much as the radicals back then wanted change, Alinsky reminded them to not disrespect the middle class (or themselves) by name-calling (that won't get them anywhere), and that the middle class was NOT their enemy.

As much as there was clamor to "help the poor", the real help for the poor (who had no power) was to come by mobilizing those who held power, the middle class. The middle class would wage the struggle for taking back power from those who didn't want to give up any, in order to for everyone to have power: corporations would be held accountable, people as George Bush's Have's and Have More's would be brought to task for not helping those less fortunate to gain power, not just throwing more money at the poor.

I think of this as the saying, give a man a fish, feed him for one day. Teach a man to fish, you feed him for life. Alinsky wanted to organize (and thus empower) the middle class to teach the poor to fish, as they had the power and means to do so.


Despite his interest in helping the poor to help themselves, Alinsky believes that no durable reform is possible without the backing of at least a substantial portion of middle-class Americans. Today they are ripe, he feels, for his kind of power-oriented organization. They are squeezed by taxes and inflation, bewildered by the revolt of youth against everything they stand for. "Their fears and frustrations at their helplessness," says Alinsky, "amount to a political paranoia, which can demonize them to turn to the law of survival in the narrowest sense."

source--also an excellent read from 1970

Unfortunately, Alinsky died before this organizing took place. By 1980, the beginning of the squeeze of the middle class was set in motion. The middle class was discouraged by those who held power from asking for true power--wealth. Wages began to be lowered, while the middle class was made to "feel" powerful (patriarchal religious fervor; demeaning and making the poor, homeless, and minorities "enemies" of the middle class; a show of military might; the pleas to increase consumption--go shopping!)

As these "feelings" of power increased, the middle class's true power, their wealth, decreased. Corporate power combined with political power to ensure that this transfer of wealth upward would be all legal and complete. The wealthiest got wealthier, leaving the middle class with less and the poor poorer still.

To add insult to injury, economic thieves conspired to take away the last dollar of wealth, turning the middle class into holders of a terrible amount of debt, becoming so greedy taking the saying to heart "You can never be too rich or too thin."

Without organizing, ala Alinsky, the middle class would continue to viciously descend on each other as uncontrollable dogs, barking and biting each other until neither is capable of fighting the true fight, all the while cheered on by the Haves and Have Mores.



posted on May, 20 2009 @ 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by FtheNWO
i'm not surprised that they paid homage to Lucifer. There's a widely held theory that says all of the poltical elite are Luciferians.


Yes, it's not a big secret anymore (thanks to Alex Jones) that almost all american elite politicians are part of the same secret societies, Skull & Bones in this case.

The "ritual" performed is actually a piece from Shakespeares' "Midsummer Night's Dream", but it's still creepy as hell. I don't know if they really believe this stuff or what..

Weird.



posted on May, 23 2009 @ 07:08 PM
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Truth is weirder than fiction.


You don’t think that the entertainment in Shakespeare’s time was under the same control that it is today do ya? Occult rituals really haven’t changed much over the millennia.



posted on May, 23 2009 @ 08:19 PM
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I think you need to check yourself into hospital because there is something seriously wrong with you, that or time travel back to Nazi Germany because that is where you and your kind belong. Absolutely shameful.



posted on May, 23 2009 @ 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by resistor
Truth is weirder than fiction.


You don’t think that the entertainment in Shakespeare’s time was under the same control that it is today do ya? Occult rituals really haven’t changed much over the millennia.


If that is so then having soldiers practice war games in and amoung the cities of the world for 'show' is like the forests coming upon Macbeth. They are hoping we just get used to it and don't notice the forces surrounding us from the inside.



posted on May, 28 2009 @ 08:06 PM
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Originally posted by suzque66

Originally posted by resistor
Truth is weirder than fiction.


You don’t think that the entertainment in Shakespeare’s time was under the same control that it is today do ya? Occult rituals really haven’t changed much over the millennia.


If that is so then having soldiers practice war games in and among the cities of the world for 'show' is like the forests coming upon Macbeth. They are hoping we just get used to it and don't notice the forces surrounding us from the inside.


'to sleep, perchance to dream'. Shakespeare (probably Sir Francis Bacon) is full of the same stuff modern entertainment is. And just a word of caution about jumping out of the ever warming pot. Some of us frogs landed in the fire. Take care if you have much to lose.




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