Saw This Comic Strip Again Today, And Thought I'd Share, page 2
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reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 01:54 PM by seagull
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One of the most profound books I have ever read (besides Maus and Maus II) dealing with the Holocaust was "Hasidic tales of the Holocaust" edited by Yaffa Eliach.


You and me both.

The old man in the strip reminds me so very strongly of an old freind, now sadly gone, named Jakob, who told me about his experiance in one of the camps. Of his family, he lost all 4 siblings, both parents, both sets of grandparents, most of his uncles and aunts, he never found out about most of his cousins...

To this day, that remains one of the most profound conversations I've ever had. I'm 46 now, I was 12 when Jakob and I talked...well he talked and I sat dumbfounded, and shocked to my very core. Not an easy thing to learn when your twelve...


reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 02:01 PM by grover
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I do believe that you may be the only other person I know that has read it. You need a strong heart to read it.


reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 02:10 PM by grover
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Like it or not the Holocaust was different in two very specific ways... one was the fact that it was so methodical... it was devoid of any passion unlike say the genocide in Rawanda... in short it was like a surgical removal.

The other reason that it is different is that it effects us to this day... partly because of its cold blooded expression but more importantly, the state of Israel and the situation in the middle east is directly connected to it.



reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 02:11 PM by seagull
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I got about halfway through, I think...

someday I'll finish it. Heartrending.


reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 02:16 PM by seagull
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That should never be forgotten either. Have you given thought to recording those stories? They're stories that need to be heard.


reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 02:16 PM by nixie_nox
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I have heard a theory that Hitler got his idea of the concentration camps from the US reservations system. Rounding people up and sticking them somewhere.


reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 02:17 PM by seagull
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No, it's not just about Jews. It's about all the people who suffered such degradation, guilty of nothing save existance.


reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 02:19 PM by SpartanKingLeonidas
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I often felt more sympathy for the "savages", as Government propaganda called the butchered Native American's, than for the ignorant settlers, when I grew up reading the history books in school.

But then again, I see through propaganda, like it was Saran Wrap.

Same goes for the Holocaust, there is a lot of propaganda that mixed facts, with fantasy.


[edit on 15-5-2009 by SpartanKingLeonidas]


reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 02:45 PM by Kram09
Originally posted by nixie_nox
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I have heard a theory that Hitler got his idea of the concentration camps from the US reservations system. Rounding people up and sticking them somewhere.


In terms of where the concentration camp first originated, i have read different things. One thing i read was where....I think it was the British ambassador complaining to Goering about concentration camps. Goering got up, opened an encyclopedia to concentration camp and read that it was first established by the British during the South African War.

I have heard other theories though such as them originating in the U.S Civil War, or the Spanish-American War. I really don't know to be honest.


reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 02:46 PM by ImzadiDax
Originally posted by seagull
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That should never be forgotten either. Have you given thought to recording those stories? They're stories that need to be heard.


I am not a writer lol but my uncle is doing exactly that. My grandma told some horrific stories and I totally agree that it needs to be remembered as well. Much hugs to ya... Dax



reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 02:49 PM by ImzadiDax
Originally posted by nixie_nox
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I have heard a theory that Hitler got his idea of the concentration camps from the US reservations system. Rounding people up and sticking them somewhere.



To be honest I couldnt really tell you, but from what my g'ma told me.. they sound pretty dam*ed close.


reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 02:49 PM by seagull
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I'm glad to hear someone is. Is he going to publish them, I hope? ...and hey, hugs back atcha.


reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 02:56 PM by grover
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I don't know about that but he took the uniforms for the brown shirts directly from the uniform at the time of the New Jersey state police.
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