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Topic started on 14-5-2009 @ 08:23 PM by Ferris.Bueller.II
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This is one of the most truthful comic strips I've ever seen.
Nonsequitur - Holocaust
This strip was first published June 11, 2006.
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reply posted on 14-5-2009 @ 08:44 PM by SpartanKingLeonidas
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reply to post by Ferris.Bueller.II
Wow.
Just wow.
That is a thought provoking comic.
And here I thought political commentary was dead, when it came to comics.
So many people just want to forget the Holocaust. Not me.
I remember all the history I learned, with good reason, it repeats itself.
I am constantly re-researching, and delving deeper and deeper into the history that we are taught verses the reality of history, the stories that get
buried, or lost, or silenced.
The Game of the Foxes:
The Untold Story of German Espionage in the United States and Great Britain During World War II
Wall Street & the
Bolshevik Revolution
Wall Street & the Rise of
Hitler
IBM and the
Holocaust: The Strategic Alliance Between Nazi Germany and America's Most Powerful Corporation
The Creature from
Jekyll Island - A Second Look at the Federal Reserve
Tragedy & Hope: A History of
the World in Our Time
Those six books there speak volumes behind the lost, buried, and covered-up, as well as silenced information behind the Holocaust.
I have them all and highly recommend them to anyone who wants to know the truth behind the scenes behind Wall Street and the Holocaust.
Ferris.Bueller.II, don't forget to submit your thread to DIGG as well.
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reply posted on 14-5-2009 @ 08:45 PM by ImzadiDax
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Originally posted by Ferris.Bueller.II
This is one of the most truthful comic strips I've ever seen.
Nonsequitur - Holocaust
This strip was first published June 11, 2006.
I have that one hanging on my fridge. Has always made me sad and aware of the atrocities we as humans are capable of. Thank you for finding and
sharing!!
♥
Dax
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reply posted on 14-5-2009 @ 08:57 PM by Ahabstar
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As a child of the 70's raised in small town Ohio, my first encounter with the tattoo was the episode of Fat Albert. It was tastefully done, but
didn't really get into as much detail as this comic strip did. Not knowing about it then, I looked it up...quite a heavy mistake learning all about
it at that age, especially with all the pictures that came with it.
My problem with the strip is that is a subject matter that should not be introduced to the very young in all the detail. I do however think that the
strip did stay on the right side of the line.
At 38, I still do not want to consider the perspective of the soldiers in the liberation units. The perspective of the "prisoners" will always be
off the table for me. It is one of the few subjects, that for my own well being, I will gloss over by saying that it was a horrible atrocity and try
to leave it at that. Some things are better to just be acknowledged as opposed to relived.
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reply posted on 14-5-2009 @ 09:05 PM by Tentickles
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Dear lord.
If deep was a volume of sound I'd be deaf by now.
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reply posted on 14-5-2009 @ 09:24 PM by grover
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reply to post by Ferris.Bueller.II
Nonsequitur - Holocaust was just shown on gocomics this past Sunday... I saw it too and for my more it (the strip) is one of the best out there.
One of the most profound books I have ever read (besides Maus and Maus II) dealing with the Holocaust was "Hasidic tales of the Holocaust" edited
by Yaffa Eliach. I read it once. I am not sure I have the strength to ever read it again but I keep it as a reminder not just of the uglyist that man
can do but of the profound depths of human resiliance and strength of spirit.
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reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 12:26 PM by GorehoundLarry
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So what's so truthful about this?
I'm still waiting for the comic about the hundreds of thousands of Chinese murdered by the Japanese...
..maybe even a comic of the millions of dead Russians...nah, that comic won't ever be published. But let's all focus on just One genocide...the
others obviously don't mean jack....
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reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 12:37 PM by Wildbob77
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When I was a kid, I met a concentration camp survivor who still had the tattoo.
She came and spoke at our church and I was amazed at how optimistically her view of life was.
I have to admit that I have issues with people who deny that the holocaust occurred.
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reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 12:51 PM by Brainbow
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Why waiting? If you want to see something done, your best bet is to do it yourself.
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reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 12:53 PM by Ferris.Bueller.II
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Yup. Exactly what I was going to say. Time to put pen (or pencil) to paper!
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reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 01:04 PM by pieman
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i don't find it all that moving, sorry folks. i have a certain sympathy with the point gorehoundlarry makes. there is a lot of hand wringing about
the holocaust but very little examination of it.
this little cartoon doesn't remind the child to avoid the actual causes of a holocaust, it reinforces the belief that it can only happen under a
particular brand of political idealism. unfortunately, this just isn't true.
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reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 01:24 PM by Kram09
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I didn't find it moving either. The holocaust was terrible, nobody is disputing that, (well actually some sadly do), but what....how shall we
say....irritates me is that when it comes to the subject of the holocaust, the muder of six million jews is often quoted. However if you include the
murder of Poles, Russians, homosexuals etc, then the true figure is more closer to 11 million. Often these victims just seem to get a passing mention
and it angers me. As if there suffering was somehow less and not worth much of a mention.
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reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 01:28 PM by dampnickers
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Whilst the holocaust was a deeply troubling time in our history, why do we keep banging on about how many Jews lost their lives?
Have the 6 million other lives that were extinguished in the concentration camps become insignificant?
Did we suddenly forget the political dissidents, homosexuals, eccentrics, the elderly, Jehovah's Witnesses, and so on, who were all rounded up WITH
the Jews?
What happened that made their lives so damned insignificant that we don't think of them whenever the holocaust is mentioned?
Worse still is the fact that Hitler is branded a genocidal maniac... he didn't even manage to kill as many as Stalin (23 million), and no one bats an
eyelid when Stalin is mentioned.
It sickens me that all we do is talk of the 6 million Jews, whilst forgetting the 29-million others who had no way to save themselves... or for that
matter the men and women who fought so very hard to stop these terrible men in doing what they did.
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reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 01:33 PM by dampnickers
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Just what I was going to say and you beat me to it... It's a very vaild point in my humble opinion.
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reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 01:34 PM by freighttrain
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You took that out of my mouth! I'm sorry, but I"m sick of hearing this kinda crap.. oh.. poor Jews. I have NOTHING against any religion, but all
main stream can talk about is the couple of million people died in Holocaust, ya it's harsh I get it, but if we gonna focus on loss of people, why
don't we look at the rest of humanity and the enormous death of so many others in the past.
It makes me feel like we're putting higher value on certain religious people, just because they happen to be our neighbor. Did you know Israel has
the most Nuclear bomb in the middle east? To me this is more dangerous then Iran enriching uranium. What about the war on Palestine civilians, was
that justified crime against humanity? Why don't we look at it from both perspective.
All humanity should have the same value and if we gonna sympathize certain event, then other events should be looked up on a same level. Otherwise
blogs like this are prejudice in my opinion.
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reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 01:41 PM by pieman
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if you guys want to know something really disturbing about the holocaust, do a little reading on
the milgram experiment and consider the fact that 13 of every 20 people you know, including
you, would "just follow orders".
there is no need for any political idealism.
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reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 01:43 PM by GorehoundLarry
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Originally posted by Brainbow
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Why waiting? If you want to see something done, your best bet is to do it yourself.
You're pretty much correct. In order to recognize other genocidal events in history, we might as well do something about it.
How many films out there about the Holocaust exist?
Now how many films about the Nanking massacre exist?
I recommend checking out the film Black Sun. It's not that hard to find, but you probably won't find it in any retailer. Online is your best bet.
Sad because you can find Schindler's List at Suncoast video..but finding a film about a ruthless disgusting rape and massacre is quite difficult.
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reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 01:44 PM by Ferris.Bueller.II
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Originally posted by dampnickers
Worse still is the fact that Hitler is branded a genocidal maniac... he didn't even manage to kill as many as Stalin (23 million), and no one bats an
eyelid when Stalin is mentioned.
I think that is because Stalin is seen as a revolutionary figure and a hero by millions rather than a maniac. Same thing for Mao, who is credited with
around 40 million deaths.
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reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 01:45 PM by Robin Goodfellow
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This cartoon moved you? that's very nice. You have the right to be moved. When, however, did I lose the right to express my feelings? Why am I not
equally free to say I am indifferent?
I understand it is politically correct to say you are horrified by this
But if you're not?
Have we reached the point where political correctness demands we make liars out of ourselves? I do not care.
In my world there have been and continue to be, many many attempts at genocide. Any and all attempts to make me see the Jewish Holocaust as special or
of more importance than any other have failed. It was an attempted genocide just like all the others and I will care about it to the same degree it's
survivors care about the 11 million Germans killed after the war had ended or how much they care about the children being slaughtered in Gaza today.
Am I permitted to say Stalin killed over 20 million but it's ancient history, get over it. Then why am I not permitted to say the same about
Hitler's genocide? Why must I agree this was somehow 'special'. This was somehow 'different'.
It was one of a hundred attempted genocides. Get over it already
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reply posted on 15-5-2009 @ 01:48 PM by Kram09
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I shall try to find that film. I have read The Rape of Nanking and it seriously disturbed me. It is appaling to think that it is often forgotten. The
fact the Japanese government tries to deny the event ever happened or to play it down is even more disgusting.
After reading The Rape of Nanking, i discovered that the author Iris Chang killed herself, at the time she was doing research on the Bataan Death
March and became incredibly depressed.
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