posted on May, 15 2009 @ 12:27 AM
reply to post by Chevalerous
Let me be very clear - I don't condone these actions, whatsoever! No one I know or have served with has ever been this morally depraved. I just
want that up front before I say what I have to say. I think those responsible should be punished.
Now, on the flip side....I know for a fact that many of those prisoners committed far worse atrocities than were done to them. It doesn't make it
right, but it could go miles in helping to understand how our own people could justify this sort of treatment. The line between right and wrong, good
and bad has been purposely blurred. Doesn't anyone see this?? I don't want half of the truth, I want the whole truth. I want to know the details
of those prisoners....what they did, who they raped, who they tortured, who they killed. It does no good to give us those details of just the
Americans running the prison, because we get a false sense of victimization.
Now before anyone jumps on me about defending the Americans, I am not. HOWEVER....if we are to hold our people to a standard, then where is the same
passion for those prisoners who did far worse? They are talking about sodomizing "children" in front of other prisoners. How old were these
children? How were they related to the prisoners? It seems like an awfully horrific thing to do, and the only thing that comes to mind is
I wonder how many people know that a common practice of Saddam's era was to slam the babies of his perceived betrayers into walls, crushing their
skulls right in front of the parents. Or torturing the babies to death in front of them by skewering their eyeballs or other horrible unimaginable
things. Raping their wives and torturing them in front of the husbands....raping their daughters.
So before everyone jumps on the bandwagon to sympathize with the prisoners and crucify the Americans, I'd be cautious about getting ALL the details
first. Two wrongs don't make a right, but it certainly helps to understand how the mindset and practices could have become so acceptable within
those walls. How do normal, every day people shift their morals in such a way that vile acts are justifiable? They obviously knew far more about
those prisoners than we are allowed to know. Again, it's not right....but it helps to under the psychology of how it happened. Perhaps an eye for
Philosophically speaking, (and I'm sure not everyone will agree), nothing happens to us in life that we didn't already earn by our own actions.