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Originally posted by whaaa
Originally posted by Zosynspiracy Government can't run anything efficiently. Look at medicare. It's a damn joke.
Medicare is far from perfect but there are millions of elderly Americans that payed taxes all their life for this government program and are alive because of it. Now they receive medicine they could'nt otherwise afford and receive medical care.
Ask them if they think medicare is a joke. Ask my mother.
[edit on 15-5-2009 by whaaa]
Originally posted by king9072
Haha ignorance at it's finest.
Socialized medical is not the horror your MSM has brainwashed you into believing. If any of you ever left your god forsaken country and visited Canada, England or France, a quick chat with local AVERAGE citizens would quickly reveal that fact.
Besides, even if you idiots are in that small percentage that can actually afford health care, under socialized medical if you have money you can pay for faster treatment/surgery or whatever.
How any of you can defend your medical system when HALF OF ALL BANKRUPTCY'S IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA ARE DUE TO HEALTH CARE COSTS
You ignorant people cant see past your nose, and those people who have their lives shattered by mounting medical bills are desperate. They have nothing to lose and it can spawn foreclosures, crime, drug abuse, school drop outs etc.
Those people, the people that get face *snip* by your government are the people breaking into your car at night, or your house while your at work. It's becoming more and more apparent that this site does nothing in denying ignorance, it's ripe with it. Quit letting the mainstream media tell you what is right for you, do some research and maybe leave your hell hole of a country for once and visit a country that has a "socialized" medical system.
Socialized schools, ok?
Socialized police, ok?
Socialized fire departments, ok?
Socialized libraries, ok?
Socialized medical? HELL NO VARMANT WE AERS AMARACANS YALL HAR HAR SOCIALIZ'N SCUM
[edit on 14-5-2009 by king9072]
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[edit on 5/15/2009 by maria_stardust]
Originally posted by MysterE
I think this proposal is worse then socialized health care. They are proposing that WE have to get our own healthcare. They then say that the govt. and employers will help pay the bill. Well, what will that do to small business' that are walking a thin line financially? The only logical way for the govt. to be able to help pay the bill is to raise taxes, or borrow more from our children.
Originally posted by suicydking
Everyone knows that a nation is best judged by how it treats it's highest class of citizens, not it's lowest.
We are drowning them in debt before their even born because we want to feel good about healthcare. We have to be smart and we can't keep giving government an open checkbook to borrow and print money which we have to pay interest on.
Individuals would be required to get coverage, either through an employer or government plan, or on their own. Employers would be required to provide coverage or pay the government a percentage of payroll.
The summary of the House plan does not include any cost estimates, but independent experts have put the price tag for such a plan at $1.2 trillion to $1.5 trillion over 10 years, with some estimates ranging as high as $1.7 trillion.