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Boy Scouts Train to Become Homeland Gestapo

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posted on May, 14 2009 @ 08:55 PM
This is so f---ing hilarious on my part.
HI EVERYONE! Current Police/Law Enforcement Explorer here. I have to say it sure is fun having people get all riled up over something that has been around for quite a few years now.
I went to the National Conference in Ft. Collins Colorado in summer of 2008 and it was pretty fun I must say. I got to meet a lot of the guys from DHS, FBI Criminal Profilers, got drilled by the Border Patrol, etc.

Law Enforcement Exploring

A little bit of history about my personal post, any former explorers here remember this?:

In 1985, 15-year-old Sheryl Ann Horak joined Bettendorf Police Department Explorer Post No. 9611 in Iowa. She participated
in a wide range of post activities over the next two years, rising to the rank of lieutenant. On April 25, 1987, while
participating in a post activity, Sheryl was shot and killed by a deranged individual. On August 14, 1987, a fund was
created by Lt. Kim Adamson of the West Valley City, Utah, police department to memorialize Sheryl's contribution to law
enforcement Explorers and to honor her goal to serve as a law enforcement professional. The Sheryl A. Horak Memorial
Endowment was instituted to provide scholarship opportunities to law enforcement Explorers who demonstrate superior
potential as career law enforcement executives.

We have laid down some of our own lives as you can see in the name of public safety, give us some slack and most of us simply want to make a real difference in the world or at least our communities.

Drop the conspiracy crap for this one please ladies and gentlemen, if we were really the modern brownshirts, then I really doubt that I would be posting this kind of stuff.

posted on May, 14 2009 @ 09:26 PM
We still have Boy Scouts here in Sodom and Gamora?

Wow just get right out of town!

Were they going to train them to do this before or after they learned to listen to Hip Hop records, wear their pants down around their knees, start smoking dope and getting a teenage girl pregnant out of wed lock and kicked out of school and adicted to Hailo or afterwards?

I think they need to target the Cub Scouts?

Do we still have Cub Scouts?

Wow just get right out of town!

posted on May, 14 2009 @ 09:26 PM
This is completely rediculous.

I am (a very soon to be) Eagle scout. You guys are insane if you are afraid of Boy Scouts. We will be one of the few that can actually survive in the wilderness for extended periods of time. We are taught cooperation, respect, patriotism (which I have none of, ironically), leadership, responsibility, and SURVIVALISM. If everybody were Eagle scouts, the world would be a lot better place.

I think explorer posts are just very specialized and small groups of Boy Scouts. Like there could be an explorer post for scuba diving, spelunking, or whatever. There is not a lot of them. In fact, in my 8 years of scouting, I've never even seen any explorer scouts. You guys are worried about one tiny post of 11-18 year olds.

Alex Jones as lost what shred of credibility he had left.

And yes, the boy scouts have heavy influence in the military? Why, you ask? Eagle scouts in general have stronger leadership skills, more respect, and better at survival. The army wants somewhat strong individuals. In fact, if you're an Eagle scout, you automatically go up a rank right after basic training.

posted on May, 14 2009 @ 09:33 PM
I am sad to say I am thoroughly disappointed. Myself being a Eagle Scout and a current Staff Member at a BSA camp I take this to be false.

Scouts are extremely smart and intelligent people. They would NEVER accept moral standards that were anything less than perfect. Boy Scouting has always been a prime example of American boys at their best. It trains them thoroughly in leadership and wilderness experience.

In fact, it is where I get most of my experience in sportsmanship. It has helped me gain necessary leadership skills and opportunities. I have risen through the ranks and BSA and am a active participant on my local, council, and national level in different programs and am glad to say I am proud to have been a member of this community.

posted on May, 14 2009 @ 09:34 PM
Those who do not know history are doomed to repeat it!

This is just another of a growing list of atrocious policies that are taken right out of the playbook of Hitler's Germany. The entire architecture of current government policy (and future policies they will be bringing upon the American people) is taken directly from blueprints that were enacted back when the people of Germany were all so in love with their glorious leader. And look where that took them?

It worked so well back then that surely it will work again? I urge all Americans to see it for what it is. Please.......WAKE UP!

posted on May, 14 2009 @ 09:39 PM
Come on, these ARE the Boy Scouts of today. Ready for war Nazi uniform and all.
Anyone not seeing this is a fool. Camp fires, square knots, survival in the wild, YES.




come on, please.....stop lying to yourselves.

Jeeeees, WAKE UP. Dont you people care?

This is the new generation who will whip our butts. We;ll see how you all like it then.

posted on May, 14 2009 @ 09:46 PM
reply to post by BSA2010
Who's afraid of the little ones, who may be good kids but give them time, they will be rogue warriors for the NWO?
I personally am able to kick their butts.

Its not FEAR, its really just sad to see something like this. :shk:

posted on May, 14 2009 @ 09:53 PM
They're just kids. They look like swat teams, not the boy scouts.

This could be aimed to recruit more (kids) for the military.

Kinda wacky to say the least.

posted on May, 14 2009 @ 10:12 PM
I don't know if it has been posted, but the Explorer program has been around for a pretty long time.

It's main purpose is to usually focus on one career path per post. Want to be a firefighter, there are Explorer groups for that. Want to learn what a Police officer does or an Engineer does, there are posts for those careers as well. I even believe there are some posts for aviation with Helicopter and Airplane specific posts.

The Explorers are an offshoot of the Boy Scouts (Learning for Life) and not considered a Traditional Scouting program per se.

They are not the Future Brownshirts of the U.S.

Here is an Explorer post from VA:

he requirements to be an Explorer Scout include the following: * Must have completed the eighth grade and are 14 years of age, or are 15 years of age but have not yet reached their 21st birthday. * Each applicant must maintain a minimum grade point average of 2.0. * The applicant must not have any arrest or conviction records for serious offenses. * The applicant must be of good moral character. Once an application is received, a background investigation will be conducted with local law enforcement and the school the applicant is attending. If the applicant is under 18 years of age, parental/guardian approval is required. Anyone requesting more information or an application should contact Sergeant J.V. Buzzo, III at (540) 853-2212. 3PNRM775SALYEN

posted on May, 15 2009 @ 01:00 AM
I was (am) an eagle scout. I recieved my patch and ribbon in '86. I stayed in the program as a youth leader till my life took me elsewhere.

The scouting program gives young adults the opportunity to be leaders. It gives them some skills that aren't taught by many dads anymore.

It gives kids a look at nature. It gives them a chance to be better than who they think they are.

It taught me skills that have served me to this day. Survival. Map reading. Building a fire. Finding shelter, or building it. Finding wild food. You name it, BSA began my journey of self-reliance. How can this be bad?

To all of you children who pose as experts on this site... Join a scout troop and learn something beyond you happy little computer world!!!

posted on May, 15 2009 @ 01:11 AM
reply to post by timewalker

Okay, I have to step in here a bit, and disagree to an extent.

Now, while I speak on conspiracy theories, and my repulsion of Government cover-ups, etc, here on ATS, I think InfoWars has gone a bit bonkers here.

I created this thread here to talk a bit about Boy Scouts in the Survival Techniques Forum.

Boy Scouts : International : Survival : All Scouting Organizations

The reason being of course, that I am a Boy Scout adult leader.

I say I disagree to an extent with InforWars, because just like the Government uses propaganda, so does InfoWars because they are countering Government programs.

Talk about a bit of over-hype if you ask me.

I am an adult volunteer within the Boy Scouts of America, and I love it, because it teaches you about "Be Prepared."

I was while in High School, a Police Explorer, and while I can not speak about the current aspects necessarily of what they teach youth, when I was in it we were being taught about everything Law Enforcement, dressing like Law Enforcement Officers, training like them, showing presence like them.

The biggest difference, was we had no access to guns or weapons, being youth.

Again, I can not speak directly about the Explorer Program right now, but, Homeland Gestapo?

I don't think so.

[edit on 15-5-2009 by SpartanKingLeonidas]

posted on May, 15 2009 @ 01:21 AM
I was in scouting in the 1960s and boy scouts are more then likely to also become survivalist in later life.

And you know what the government thinks of survivalist.

The government thinks survivalist and veterans are terrorists.

posted on May, 15 2009 @ 01:21 AM
reply to post by HERACAT

The scouting program gives young adults the opportunity to be leaders. It gives them some skills that aren't taught by many dads anymore.

It gives kids a look at nature. It gives them a chance to be better than who they think they are.

It taught me skills that have served me to this day. Survival. Map reading. Building a fire. Finding shelter, or building it. Finding wild food. You name it, BSA began my journey of self-reliance. How can this be bad?

Great my father taught me all the skills you mentioned. I was lucky. He did not teach me the skills he learned as an MP Attack Dog Trainer. Why? because it was not relevant. Does it look like these kids are enjoying nature?

Did the Scouts teach you to use flash bangs, how to disassemble and clean a HK, did they teach you to subdue terrorist or make a felony arrest or take down a drug cartel? Are these the skills you think fourteen year old's should be worrying about? Not me sir.

I do not claim to be an expert, just passing along a story that concerns me.

edit to add: maybe I am just shooting off the parts about the flash bangs and HK's but the other parts are stated on the news article. I just don't think it something that teenagers should learn.

[edit on 15-5-2009 by timewalker]

posted on May, 15 2009 @ 01:21 AM
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas

Oh yeah, in addition, since I noticed afterwards, those guns you see in their hands?

Those are called "red guns" and are rubber replicas that are used as training devices for simulation.

I think InfoWars is a bit off the mark on this one.

While they are training with Law Enforcement Officers, there are policies, procedures, and protocols that they utilize in order to do what they do. The bad cops you always hear about or read about in the papers are usually either rookies cutting their teeth, making major mistakes, or the perpetrator is blowing their story out of proportion because of their ignorance of the law they broke.

And yes, I know racial profiling happens, I wholeheartedly disagree with it.

A person, whether a Police Officer, a perpetrator, or an average citizen does what they do, based on their life experiences, knowledge, and educaton level.

I was as well a Security Officer for almost two years.

I got tired of working with knuckle-dragging apes and mindless barbarians who always went straight to violence.

[edit on 15-5-2009 by SpartanKingLeonidas]

posted on May, 15 2009 @ 01:25 AM
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas
The story was take from the NY Times as has been stated many times in this thread. I will put the link for you. Infowars took it from here:

NY Times

posted on May, 15 2009 @ 01:28 AM
reply to post by timewalker

Okay, maybe I should do some digging them and see what I can find.

The guns on the NY Times page are airsoft pellet guns, you can see the neon orange on the muzzles.

When I was a child and teen, I always took waterguns and spray painted them black to play war with other kids.

Now you can not do that for fear of being shot by Law Enforcement.

timewalker, don't think I was upset with you, I'm not. That was a reply only.

[edit on 15-5-2009 by SpartanKingLeonidas]

posted on May, 15 2009 @ 01:32 AM
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas

see my edit on my above post. I went a little over board but still, it just does not sit well with me.

posted on May, 15 2009 @ 01:36 AM
reply to post by timewalker

I understand completely.

I was not mad either, but InfoWars, to me, is just like Prison Planet, a bit off.

Read the name of the site. Info Wars. Meaning "Information Warfare"

Prison Planet. The name is not stating whether it is freeing, or imprisoning the planet.

If it were my website, I would have named it Freeing the Prison Planet.

Words, hold meaning, their intent holds power, and through that, motivates people to an end, through a means of information.

That's called propanganda.

[edit on 15-5-2009 by SpartanKingLeonidas]

posted on May, 15 2009 @ 01:39 AM
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas

I will read up on your post in the survival forum. I was in the Boy Scouts when I was a kid. I have been taught to survive by my family. These things are of interest to me. My best friend of decades is an Eagle Scout and instructor also.

Edit to add: I am with you on I do think AJ does go a bit far sometimes. I try to corroborate everything he post that interest me. I scan it a lot to do just that, corroborate.

[edit on 15-5-2009 by timewalker]

posted on May, 15 2009 @ 01:40 AM
Boy Scouts are brainwashed, like the Hitler youth.

This is not surprising.

But they are also trained to help people and always be prepared.

Their own people, maybe.

Hasn't this world learnt anything from its mistakes?

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